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Same centuries-old argument. I don't really understand her point here. Yes. There are poor people... stop the presses!

So what? What's the point? What does she want to do about it? More socialism? Give me a case in which that has worked and produced booming economies!

Libs just don't seem to realize that if everyone in the world were to suddenly achieve the lifestyle the average American enjoys, the world's resources would quickly evaporate and there would be choking pollution.

But that doesn't matter. There are poor people in the world. As a lib non-economically educated journalist, I have to sound the siren.

And people scream about Fox News' bias.

1 posted on 11/30/2006 8:54:30 AM PST by libertarianPA
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"highlights growing inequality in the distribution of wealth"

Maybe the poor countries should make products or perform services that other people want and sell them.

Just an idea.

Stupid communists.


2 posted on 11/30/2006 8:57:21 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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You could take all the monet from the rich and give it to the poor. In less that 10 years the rich would have it back.


3 posted on 11/30/2006 8:57:52 AM PST by L98Fiero (Built to please and raised to rock.)
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I thought this was extremely basic economics: The pie doesn't get cut in more ways -- the pie grows. Buffet helps make the pie bigger. Those poor people in Bangladesh who are using Grameen Bank's microcredit to escape from poverty are making the pie bigger.

Capitalists always want the pie to grow, the increasing slice size going to those who made it grow. Socialists want to keep the pie the same size and cut all sizes equally.


5 posted on 11/30/2006 9:00:52 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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"Our political system and the very conservative ideology that says somehow the way to boost the economy is by reducing the taxes for the very wealthy, that system has increased enormously the inequalities in our society," said Pablo Eisenberg, senior fellow at Georgetown University's Public Policy Institute."

What he is really saying: we must use the liberal Marxist idea of "wealth redistribution" to make everyone live equal. Our government should have ZERO capability to determine the distribution of wealth. The market determines the distribution of wealth and the government should not undo what the market does by taxing wealth away from people and then redistributing it to others.
That is a form of Communism (i.e., the government determines how much wealth people should get to make and keep).
9 posted on 11/30/2006 9:07:45 AM PST by Hendrix
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"Buffett pledged to give away a mammoth $37 billion of his fortune -- more than most African countries' GDP estimates for this year -- the bulk of which will go to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation."

Estate tax protection. Buffett is such an advocate of massive estate taxes so why doesn't he just allow the government to confiscate 55% of his wealth when he kicks the bucket?

10 posted on 11/30/2006 9:08:33 AM PST by Commiewatcher
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Advanced economies too are plagued by inequalities which make parts of their population vulnerable to external shocks and natural disasters, as shown by the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in the United States.

Yeah, that's for sure. Katrina was particularly hard on welfare moochers and stupid people who did not listen to orders to evacuate New Orleans, for example. They were just like people who stand on the train tracks and ignore the oncoming train because they're waiting for somebody to send a limo for them.

I think of it as social Darwinism in action. Nature can be very harsh with stupid, useless career social dependants with no sense of responsibility for their own self-preservation. That's how God culls the herd.

11 posted on 11/30/2006 9:08:49 AM PST by Kenton
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Same old communist claptrap. If the commies want to make a positive contribution to mankind, they should render themselves into biodiesel for the rest of us!


13 posted on 11/30/2006 9:10:31 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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This is a "zero sum" argument and is as extinct as the dodo.

In America, the rich get richer and the poor get richer too.

Today's poor in America live as well or better than the middle class did during the '50's when I was growing up. That's why half the world is trying to crash our borders.

No flat screen TV, only one car per family, no health club membership, got to shop at Walmart not Prada . . . Oh, the humanity!


14 posted on 11/30/2006 9:11:05 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Our troops are smart. It's our politicians who are stupid.)
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"Capital moves more freely than labor and that means that the bargaining position of workers is disadvantaged relative to capital."

"Labor" is not a lumpen, indistinguishable mass negotiating with an equally indivisible "capital." Individuals workers bargain with individual employers, unless aided by collective-bargaining laws, which artificially forces together their otherwise dissimilar interests. The variation within "labor" is much greater than the differences between Mr. Stiglitz's imaginary categories of "labor" and "capital," which is Marx's language.

Joseph Stiglitz, one of whose most popular books is called Whither Socialism?, is a very smart man in the ways of academic economists, but a socialist through and through.

15 posted on 11/30/2006 9:12:18 AM PST by untenured
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But the size of the gift also highlights growing inequality in the distribution of wealth

Wealth isn't "distributed" it's earned. those who have more don't get it because of some cosmic roulette wheel , they get it by earning it. Those who have less get less because they either don't work as hard or don't do things as valuable.

16 posted on 11/30/2006 9:12:27 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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"Analysts have also said an overriding concern with raw economic growth measures, at the heart of widely accepted business-friendly economic policies, risked widening wealth gaps."

What this really means: The left wants to regulate businesses so much that they cannot make a lot of profit because that would create too much wealth for the owners. Of course, the left is too dumb to realize that the wealth that all the businesses make gets plowed back into the economy with either investing (it is not put under a pillow) or spending, and thus it makes us all richer and all have a higher standard of living.

It is amazing how dumb and economic clueless the left is. I bet they all failed economics 101.
17 posted on 11/30/2006 9:12:53 AM PST by Hendrix
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To the Left, every one except them ought to live in a state of shared misery. If you're well off, you should feel guilty about not have to struggle for a living. Its your fault you're living in affluence. You don't deserve to be happy. Notice these people are NOT working on the assumption the poor deserve to leave poverty behind and become part of the well-off. Where would the Left be without victims?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

21 posted on 11/30/2006 9:21:57 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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the richest 50 individuals in the world have a combined income greater than that of the poorest 416 million

Let's play "liberal hypotheticals" with this wild pronouncement.

Our society recognizes both intelligence and "emotional" intelligence, right? What would happen to the calculations of wealth if we figure "emotional" wealth in the equation?

Liberal minds want to know in order to be proud of their own emotional generosity.

22 posted on 11/30/2006 9:22:29 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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world economic output doubled in the last 10 years.

...and did so precisely because there was the incentive of profit.

24 posted on 11/30/2006 9:27:28 AM PST by ctdonath2
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But the size of the gift also highlights growing inequality in the distribution of wealth

Better there should be huge concentrations of wealth in the hands of individuals than in the hands of government, and the latter is the only alternative.

26 posted on 11/30/2006 9:29:17 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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Socialism is not the answer, though.


28 posted on 11/30/2006 9:31:59 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( For the Republic.)
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Libs just don't seem to realize that if everyone in the world were to suddenly achieve the lifestyle the average American enjoys, the world's resources would quickly evaporate and there would be choking pollution.

Two points ..

They don't want everyone to achieve the average American lifestyle. They want the average American lifestyle to disappear.

If all the wealth was magically divided equally across the globe ... in a generation the "gross inequalities" would be right back in place.

"The poor you will always have with you" .. Jesus

31 posted on 11/30/2006 9:38:16 AM PST by tx_eggman (Democrat Campaign Slogan - 2006: "Bring Out The Gimp!")
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Advanced economies too are plagued by inequalities which make parts of their population vulnerable to external shocks and natural disasters, as shown by the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in the United States.

No, it's the advanced economy which enables parts of their population to be vulnerable to external shocks and natural disasters - and survive!

Old maps of New Orleans showed nobody living in the flood zone - precisely because it would flood and destroy homes (surely found out the hard way). It was the advanced economy which built levees between the river/ocean and the flood zone, allowing the disadvantaged access to cheap, previously-unused, and wealth-enabling land. It was the advanced economy which was able to evacuate most of the city in time, and provided food & shelter to those who would/could not care for themselves. It is also the advanced economy (gov't flood insurance) which, upon devestating failure of those levees and destruction of homes in that flood zone, will rebuild those homes at little/no cost to owners & occupants.

The bottom "inequals" of an advanced economy are, on the whole, better off than the bottom "equals" of a less-advanced economy.

BTW: It was also an advanced economy which sent a floating city to Indonesia to help the less-advanced economy deal with the pervasive devestation of a huge tsunami.

Would the author prefer a less-advanced economy? The bottom is fixed; the top is boundless. Lowering the top does not raise the bottom.

32 posted on 11/30/2006 9:40:43 AM PST by ctdonath2
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I find it extremely interesting that Reuters has an economics reporter in London, supposedly writing "objective" news stories, who is an avowed Marxist.


33 posted on 11/30/2006 9:40:46 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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Hobbs accurately described the lives of ordinary people before the industrial revolution as "nasty, brutish and short." Yet we still have these pseudo-intellectual fools who continue to decry the economic forces that are giving more and more people around the world unprecedented health and lifespans and relatively comfortable lives.

He ought to ask some farmers in India or Indonesia if they'd rather continue in grinding rural poverty or make twice the wage in a Nike "sweatshop." Nike wins every time.

34 posted on 11/30/2006 9:45:08 AM PST by colorado tanker
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