[saganite]

What about if you drink? Waht about if you get a speeding ticket? What about if you have guns in your house? What about if you're 150 lbs overweight? What if you're only 50 lbs overweight?

All those could be deemed within the right of a company to regulate since all those things according to current PC thought could make you a high risk employee. Would you agree to firing on any of those grounds?

[magslinger]

How about a few to get liberals panties in a twist?

Homosexuality has been already been suggested.
A vegan diet is unnatural and unhealthy.
Neither eating nor drinking during daylight hours for a month poses health and safety risks.

[NEPA]

As I said I don't agree with the policy but it is a private company. They have a responsibility to the shareholders to hold down costs and maximize profits. The policy is all about the bottom line.

The year 2000 was a transition year in which Scotts, Miracle Gro, Ortho, and Round Up merged following buy outs in the 90's. It wasn't a very good year and in late 2000 there was a complete restructuring and the company, under Hagedorn, seemed to become much more frugal where employee costs were concerned (I was terminated, rehired with no benefits and can't get them back because I get laid off for a few weeks which makes me a seasonal employee). There's also a lot more job stress and pressure to be competitive not just in the marketplace but with other employees.

This is where the smoking policy comes in. In my opinion it's a Hagedorn thing about money and competition and his desire to present some kind of ideal picture of the company. I wouldn't be surprised if the next target will be overweight employees if he can show overweight employees cost the company more money in health or other costs.

I liked the company a lot better before Hagedorn but the shareholders probably love him.

[bigdcaldavis]

No those things should not weigh in on somebody's employment.

My philosophy is this : Show up to work on time. Give it your best. And if your best isn't good enough, you're fired.

[paulat]

What about if you drink? Waht about if you get a speeding ticket? What about if you have guns in your house? What about if you're 150 lbs overweight? What if you're only 50 lbs overweight?

When you make an EMPLOYER responsible for your health care...that's what you get. If you have an account you CONTROL it's another matter.

[rickylc]

it won't be 50lbs over wieght, it will be 20 or less, at least that's what they are doing at a company here in okemos, mi.

get to your proper wieght or you're gone.

so all you folks out there who have had a hard time losing wieght better realize your job may soon depend on it

:)