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To: Kimberly GG
The day that Illegals are able to collect Social Security is the day that the Government will make efforts to close the border.

Right now, an estimated 10 million Illegals pay into SS, but don't collect. The government (both Democrats and Republicans) need the Illegals to help keep the SS system afloat. Its just a matter of time before some Federal Judge changes that.

18 posted on 11/29/2006 12:42:16 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism in a parasite that ALWAYS kills its host.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

Cowboy, Bush is backing Senate Bill 2611 and not only does he refuse to close the border, I seem to remember him wanting to make sure that the illegals not only collect Social Security for the years they've worked here ILLEGALLY, he wants them to collect for any time worked before they came here. Anyone have any links on this information?


39 posted on 11/29/2006 12:49:14 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Tancredo '08 www.firecoalition.com/www.unitedpatriotsofamerica.com)
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To: Cowboy Bob

You said:
Right now, an estimated 10 million Illegals pay into SS, but don't collect. The government (both Democrats and Republicans) need the Illegals to help keep the SS system afloat. Its just a matter of time before some Federal Judge changes that.


I'd like to know where that statistic came from. I seriously doubt it. There is no way to tell how many (or how few) illegals pay into SS. It is purely a guess.

And MY guess is these illegals are smarter than that. They DO NOT PAY INTO SS. They work the jobs which don't deduct SS. Nobody will say this -- because that would SHOW BEYOND ANY DOUBT that the EMPLOYERS are to blame, for paying these illegals directly.

The real problem is that these illegals are being hired. They should not be hired by ANYBODY to do ANYTHING.

No one is addressing this. It is like we want to have it both ways. We want cheap labor -- which just encourages the illegals to enter our country. Then we gripe about them entering the country.

And in most cases, it is the same people doing both!


41 posted on 11/29/2006 12:50:54 PM PST by i_dont_chat (I have the right to offend. You can take offense or not.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Right now, an estimated 10 million Illegals pay into SS, but don't collect. The government (both Democrats and Republicans) need the Illegals to help keep the SS system afloat. Its just a matter of time before some Federal Judge changes that.

So, 10 million illegals are paying into SS, but not collecting, and those 10 million, who work for less than standard wage, are all that is keeping the SS System afloat. Wow.

LOL [GMAB]

If the SS System is in that bad a shape, they need to let it go broke and make it defunct.
56 posted on 11/29/2006 1:02:22 PM PST by TomGuy
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