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To: ContemptofCourt; Salvation

Dude, get over yourself. It was a figure of speech and whether you liked it or not, the semantics argument grows tiresome. Our laws are based upon the Christian tradition, whether you like it or not. The references to Providence and "their Creator" are proof enough of the fact. Our most basic laws come from the traditions set forth in the Christian tradition about rights that cannot be taken away (inalienable), given by their Creator. The Founders were smart enough to allow freedom OF religion but not freedom FROM religion. They chose not to, as you put it, to avoid the circumstance that was a root cause of why they fled England, the state-sponsored Anglican Church. The basis for some of the most basic laws (i.e. against murder, against theft, against adultery, etc.) come from the Ten Commandments. This is fact, not drivel. Feel free to respond but I am done with you.


230 posted on 11/28/2006 6:35:31 AM PST by unionblue83 (Duty is ours; consequences are God's. -- Stonewall Jackson.)
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To: unionblue83; ContemptofCourt
Dude, get over yourself. It was a figure of speech and whether you liked it or not, the semantics argument grows tiresome.

No, you were wrong, and someone versed in Constitutional Law called you on this. Deal with it.

232 posted on 11/28/2006 6:52:47 AM PST by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: unionblue83
The basis for some of the most basic laws (i.e. against murder, against theft, against adultery, etc.) come from the Ten Commandments. This is fact, not drivel.

Our common law derives from English law, which derives from Saxon and Roman law. Do you really think that murder was OK before the issuance of the Ten Commandments?

"For we know that the common law is that system of law which was introduced by the Saxons on their settlement in England, and altered from time to time by proper legislative authority from that time to the date of Magna Charta, which terminates the period of the common law. . . This settlement took place about the middle of the fifth century. But Christianity was not introduced till the seventh century; the conversion of the first christian king of the Heptarchy having taken place about the year 598, and that of the last about 686. Here then, was a space of two hundred years, during which the common law was in existence, and Christianity no part of it." Letter from Thomas Jefferson to Thomas Cooper, 2-10-1814.

234 posted on 11/28/2006 7:32:04 AM PST by ContemptofCourt
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