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To: jackieaxe
Based on SAT scores, the National Spelling Bee, and overall behavior, the "well intentioned amateurs" are by far doing a better job than the so-called "educated" professional teachers. Screw the public schools, that's what they do to their students and the people who pay for their big government social experiment. The worst thing I've seen in my life time is the total monopoly of governments schools and the death of parochial and private schools.

Somewhat flawed...the stats have been derived by homeschooling advocates who take a sample of homeschooled children against the whole of public school educated ones. A better sample would be to compare homeschooled kids against a subset of public school students who have parental involvement. And, when that comparison is made, the homeschooled kids place well-behind their competition.

48 posted on 11/27/2006 7:24:47 AM PST by meandog (These are the times that try men's souls!)
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To: meandog

Your source for those stats is ?


118 posted on 11/27/2006 7:53:12 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: meandog
A better sample would be to compare homeschooled kids against a subset of public school students who have parental involvement.

We home schoolers are just eliminating the middle men, dog.

And, when that comparison is made, the homeschooled kids place well-behind their competition.Source? Back-up data, please.

170 posted on 11/27/2006 8:12:35 AM PST by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [This is some nasty...])
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To: meandog

The really smart kids learn from whatever resources are at hand, the lazy learn as much as they contribute and the rest drive the curriculum.


237 posted on 11/27/2006 9:01:37 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: meandog
"A better sample would be to compare homeschooled kids against a subset of public school students who have parental involvement. And, when that comparison is made, the homeschooled kids place well-behind their competition."


Provide the source, please.
434 posted on 11/27/2006 9:43:13 PM PST by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: meandog
Somewhat flawed...the stats have been derived by homeschooling advocates who take a sample of homeschooled children against the whole of public school educated ones. A better sample would be to compare homeschooled kids against a subset of public school students who have parental involvement. And, when that comparison is made, the homeschooled kids place well-behind their competition.

You're cherry picking your own ideal group for comparison. The "parental involvement" indicates the parents are having to compensate for what the schools can't accomplish alone. Try comparing public school students without parental involvement to home schooled students so you don't have a mixed paradigm.

517 posted on 11/28/2006 11:39:29 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: meandog; RavenATB
A better sample would be to compare homeschooled kids against a subset of public school students who have parental involvement.

Not so. If the statistics include all homeschoolers across the board, then it should be compared to all public schoolers across the board. That would be an equitable comparison. Besides, then you're stuck trying to define *parental involvement*. How much? What kind?

My kids were pretty much self-teaching by high school. The parental involvement consisted of making sure they did their lessons, answering questions when they had trouble, and grading tests.

My daughter had 1530 SAT score by 11th grade, something the high school valedictorians of the two different school districts we live in during those high school years didn't come near; and one of those girls went to Harvard. My daughter also went to the National Spelling Bee. I have a bachelors degree and my husband has none. Not bad for a couple of amateurs.

732 posted on 11/30/2006 3:56:19 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: meandog

Forty percent of public teachers place their own children in private schools. Maybe they know something?????

Believe me, when voucher systems become available, most of the people starting their own little schools will be former public school teachers themselves. They will fly out of the outdated, screwed-up government schools so fast that the bureaucrats will be assigning administrators to classroom duty.


738 posted on 11/30/2006 7:32:27 PM PST by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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