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Home Schools Run By Well-Meaning Amateurs
NEA ^ | By Dave Arnold

Posted on 11/27/2006 7:04:44 AM PST by meandog

Schools With Good Teachers Are Best-Suited to Shape Young Minds

There's nothing like having the right person with the right experience, skills and tools to accomplish a specific task. Certain jobs are best left to the pros, such as, formal education.

There are few homeowners who can tackle every aspect of home repair. A few of us might know carpentry, plumbing and, let’s say, cementing. Others may know about electrical work, tiling and roofing. But hardly anyone can do it all.

Same goes for cars. Not many people have the skills and knowledge to perform all repairs on the family car. Even if they do, they probably don’t own the proper tools. Heck, some people have their hands full just knowing how to drive.

So, why would some parents assume they know enough about every academic subject to home-school their children? You would think that they might leave this -- the shaping of their children’s minds, careers, and futures -- to trained professionals. That is, to those who have worked steadily at their profession for 10, 20, 30 years! Teachers!

Experienced Pros

There’s nothing like having the right person with the right experience, skills and tools to accomplish a specific task. Whether it is window-washing, bricklaying or designing a space station. Certain jobs are best left to the pros. Formal education is one of those jobs.

Of course there are circumstances that might make it necessary for parents to teach their children at home. For example, if the child is severely handicapped and cannot be transported safely to a school, or is bedridden with a serious disease, or lives in such a remote area that attending a public school is near impossible.

Well-Meaning Amateurs

The number of parents who could easily send their children to public school but opt for home-schooling instead is on the increase. Several organizations have popped up on the Web to serve these wannabe teachers. These organizations are even running ads on prime time television. After viewing one advertisement, I searched a home school Web site. This site contains some statements that REALLY irritate me!

“It’s not as difficult as it looks.”

The “it” is meant to be “teaching.” Let’s face it, teaching children is difficult even for experienced professionals. Wannabes have no idea.

“What about socialization? Forget about it!”

Forget about interacting with others? Are they nuts? Socialization is an important component of getting along in life. You cannot teach it. Children should have the opportunity to interact with others their own age. Without allowing their children to mingle, trade ideas and thoughts with others, these parents are creating social misfits.

If this Web site encouraged home-schooled children to join after-school clubs at the local school, or participate in sports or other community activities, then I might feel different. Maine state laws, for example, require local school districts to allow home-schooled students to participate in their athletic programs. For this Web site to declare, “forget about it,” is bad advice.

When I worked for Wal-Mart more than 20 years ago, Sam Walton once told me: “I can teach Wal-Mart associates how to use a computer, calculator, and how to operate like retailers. But I can’t teach them how to be a teammate when they have never been part of any team.”

“Visit our online bookstore.”

Buying a history, science or math book does not mean an adult can automatically instruct others about the book’s content.

Gullible Parents

Another Web site asks for donations and posts newspaper articles pertaining to problems occurring in public schools.

It’s obvious to me that these organizations are in it for the money. They are involved in the education of children mostly in the hope of profiting at the hands of well-meaning but gullible parents.

This includes parents who home-school their children for reasons that may be linked to religious convictions. One Web site that I visited stated that the best way to combat our nation’s “ungodly” public schools was to remove students from them and teach them at home or at a Christian school.

I’m certainly not opposed to religious schools, or to anyone standing up for what they believe in. I admire anyone who has the strength to stand up against the majority. But in this case, pulling children out of a school is not the best way to fight the laws that govern our education system. No battle has ever been won by retreating!

No Training

Don’t most parents have a tough enough job teaching their children social, disciplinary and behavioral skills? They would be wise to help their children and themselves by leaving the responsibility of teaching math, science, art, writing, history, geography and other subjects to those who are knowledgeable, trained and motivated to do the best job possible.

(Dave Arnold, a member of the Illinois Education Association, is head custodian at Brownstown Elementary School in Southern Illinois.)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Philosophy
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To: cornelis
In logic we are taught to watch out for statements that use "all" "none" "most" "never" and so on.

Okay, a large subset...

101 posted on 11/27/2006 7:47:38 AM PST by meandog (These are the times that try men's souls!)
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To: meandog
why does every study show that homeschoolers do so much better on standardized tests (on average) than their peers in public school?
They don't if the comparison sample is correctly done.

Yes, the correct NEA way - tweak the variables nine ways to Sunday until you find the exact criteria that allows public school kids to show better results than home schooled children.

Adjust annually.

102 posted on 11/27/2006 7:47:40 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: meandog

I am a public school teacher and allow me to say: Bullschmidt. Homeschool. If there is a particular area in which you are weak, supplement with tutors or something. Even if, at 18, they were doing worse academically then public school kids, they are undoubtedly better off psychologically. They can take a few remedial classes at community college to buff up wherever a parent may have not caught up and be ready for college soon enough. And best of all, they will have spent their formative years being molded by YOU instead of liberals and all the little neighborhood brats.


103 posted on 11/27/2006 7:48:07 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: ichabod1

Fortunately where we are (upstate SC) you don't see much of that in school. However my daughter gets plenty of revisionist crap at the local community college. But, the professors don't have to make a big effort with it, as the textbooks have been all "adjusted" to reflect the proper leftist and multicultural talking points.


104 posted on 11/27/2006 7:48:43 AM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: meandog

Oh wow. It's difficult to know where to start a response to this article.

First, in an ideal world, a professionally trained, dedicated teacher would probably do a decent job teaching the topic such as history, math, grammar, literature. The problem is, we don't live in an ideal world. Some teachers are teachers, not because they are dedicated to the education of children or youth, but because they saw it as an flexible profession which has union-protected benefits and lots of days off. Then there are the teachers who are required to teach out of their majors--the math teacher is assigned to tackle science problem. Now add into the mix the fact that most teachers, dedicated or not, spend a huge part of their instruction time just trying to keep order in their classrooms or doing district paperwork and tests. Include the problem of dumbing down the textbooks and curriculum to be "inclusive" and the education fad of putting all types of kids together regardless of their levels of achievement. Then factor in the social pressure among teachers not to make each other look bad by being seens as a much better teacher than the average teacher. You then have a situation in public education where it is nearly impossible for that professional to teach to his or her full ability.

The argument on socialization also falls flat. What public education teaches is not socialization so much as socialism. It teaches group think, often punishes individual initiative, and saddles motivated students with the onerous task of carrying unmotivated team members on their backs or suffering the consequences of a lower group grade. That type of socialization does not create Nobel Prize winners, entrepreneurs or statesmen. It does produce willing union members, more teachers and other types who want to have someone else give them the orders and will guarantee payment of their wages regardless of their contribution to the overall health of their employer.

The writer discounts the power of knowledge in the public hands nowadays. What politically-correct textbook can stand up to the internet in terms of current information and availability of contrary opinions with which to educate thinking? What kid doesn't learn better with hands-on experience and immediate one-to-one teaching during that experience, compared to a group project where the kids are to "teach each other"? A motivated home school teacher can find almost anything needed to teach a child more effectively than public school experiments which pass for teaching today.

I don't denigrate anyone's choice of public, private, homeschooling or a mixture of each, but every choice requires diligence by the parent, whether finding the best homeschooling opportunities, or monitoring the abuses of public education, or ensuring that private schools toe the mark. It's a big job for the parents to be involved in their childrens' education whatever way they choose to go and if some want the job to be fulltime at home, go for it. My kids had public education, then charter school education which combined homeschooling with distance and on-site learning.

This custodian is merely spouting the union line and showing his ignorance in the process.



105 posted on 11/27/2006 7:49:20 AM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: meandog
A few of us might know carpentry, plumbing and, let’s say, cementing.

How about let's say the correct word Brainiac, masonry.

106 posted on 11/27/2006 7:49:22 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: meandog
So, how are the kids you homeschool going to do on the following standard high school math question: Two automobiles start out in opposite directions. Each go 40 miles; make 90-degree left turns and go 30 miles. How far apart are they?

It sounds like you are interested in homeschooling.

107 posted on 11/27/2006 7:49:22 AM PST by cornelis
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To: Muzzle_em
At 42, I STILL carry emotional scars from my years in public school. What a WONDERFUL social experieince that was...NOT!

Agreed. I'd have been better off socially if I'd never set foot in the place to begin with.
108 posted on 11/27/2006 7:49:31 AM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: 2banana
This is a piece written by a janitor, about allowing only trained union members to teach.

The NEA should really try to make it a little tougher to make fun of them.

109 posted on 11/27/2006 7:49:48 AM PST by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: shag377

There are so many answers to your question that I could write a book on the subject. Here's the short version:

1) You can get terrific resources (textbooks, DVDs, software) that will allow your child to master the subject on their own
2) use online courses/online tutors
3) send child to class anywhere for the subject
4) hire private tutor or use homeschool co-op


110 posted on 11/27/2006 7:50:10 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Polyxene
When I asked a current teacher why the school board so adamantly refuses volunteer help, her reply was, "If we fill those jobs with volunteers, the paying positions will never come back. Those people really should get paid for those jobs." Un-freakin'-believable!! NEA-speak, if I ever heard it!

That attitude is all over the place in public schools ... even down to the secretary/administrative support positions. They are never interested in economies or streamlining the work ... someone might be out of a job as a result. So they continue in the same inefficient manner, while crying for more money everywhere.

I speak from first-hand experience ... Mr. RightFight is in his 38th year of teaching in a public high school. And ... we homeschooled our own kids through middle school. In addition, I worked for his public high school for four years in an administrative support position.

111 posted on 11/27/2006 7:50:29 AM PST by RightField
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To: meandog
These organizations are even running ads on prime time television

Oh, the horrors of a free society!
112 posted on 11/27/2006 7:50:36 AM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: meandog

Cementing??????

If home schooling is so bad, why do the vast majority of students shine? Huh?


113 posted on 11/27/2006 7:51:13 AM PST by lawdude (The dems see Wal-Mart as a bigger threat to the US than muslim terrorists)
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To: meandog
There's nothing like having the right person with the right experience, skills and tools to accomplish a specific task. Certain jobs are best left to the pros, such as, formal education.

I might be more inclined to agree if the union that represents said ostensibly trained professionals had caught that punctuation error before it made it onto a live web page.

114 posted on 11/27/2006 7:51:23 AM PST by RichInOC ("I see stupid people. They're everywhere....They don't even know that they're dumb.")
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To: meandog
Two automobiles start out in opposite directions. Each go 40 miles; make 90-degree left turns and go 30 miles. How far apart are they?

What is this, a quiz? I can't believe we're on a serious thread about homeschool vs public school and you're asking little math questions.

And to answer your math question, pythagorean theorem would be the appropriate method to solving the problem. I imagine even most of those amateur homeschoolers you so deride could get that one.
115 posted on 11/27/2006 7:51:36 AM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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To: meandog

In the early eighties we had many teachers in Birmingham, who had bought teaching degrees without attending classes and were tenured. There were so many that the school board could not fire them without shutting down the system for years. Nothing was ever done except close down the college that sold those degrees. I would have said "worthless degrees", except the felon teachers continued to be paid to teach, and most have retired with fat retirements. My sons had some of these criminals for teachers. The people could not speak English very well and were terrible excuses for teachers. There were at lot of parents who were better educated than these clowns, and would have been able to home school at a much higher level.


116 posted on 11/27/2006 7:52:14 AM PST by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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To: 2banana
I went to the NEA link and searched for "homeschool." I got this.

In it is this quote:
Stop Vouchers/Block Federal Charter School Legislation. Help close achievement gaps by blocking ineffective measures that divert public resources to private, religious, or homeschool K-12 uses. Ensure that the federal government doesn't undermine states' rights to determine charter school policies (whether to permit charter schools and under what circumstances). Block any efforts to use federal funds for private charter schools.

LOL - "...close achievement gaps..."

117 posted on 11/27/2006 7:52:45 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: meandog

Your source for those stats is ?


118 posted on 11/27/2006 7:53:12 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: ichabod1
I don't think you do understand. The homeschooling movement intends to DESTROY the educational establishment...

Yes, I fully appreciate the intent of the homeschooling movement and it will result in America being a third world country of haves and have-nots; one which creates a large population of peasants and makes the best nation God ever created ripe for revolution and eventual communism.

119 posted on 11/27/2006 7:53:35 AM PST by meandog (These are the times that try men's souls!)
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To: Madam Theophilus
Need I say mroe?

Dear Madam,

Yes, you should say much "mroe". In fact, your post was so well reasoned that not much "mroe" could be said, of course until you said that little bit "mroe". I'm shilling for a new Freepism here so I hope it get's some play. Need I say mroe?

Best Regards,

Bondservant
120 posted on 11/27/2006 7:53:40 AM PST by bondservant (Living in Jesusland!)
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