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A Sad Scene: Miles Douglas on the jealousy, ageism, and sexual intrigue of gay men's lives.
CatholicEducation. org (Spectator UK) ^ | March 12, 2006 | Miles Douglas

Posted on 11/20/2006 2:50:43 PM PST by madprof98

A few months ago I persuaded one of my oldest and best gay friends to invite his lively, articulate heterosexual neighbours to dinner. The meal was, as I had expected, a great success. Conversation was amusing, flowed naturally along with the wine, and covered an impressive range of subjects. Like any good dinner party, it left a warm afterglow. I have had a long and, many would say, complicated relationship with my host, and later that night I asked him to admit that the party was far more successful than his many all-gay evenings. He did so, somewhat wistfully, and then fell back into a 'what's-a-chap-to-do?' fatalism. 'The trouble is, we have to live in the gay world, ' he said, and by no means for the first time. 'We have no choice.' If we believe the media and our own wishful thinking, this is the best-ever time to be gay. Through civil partnerships and an equal age of consent, we have achieved near-parity with heterosexuals. It is illegal to discriminate against us at work, and this will soon be extended to the provision of goods and services. Anti-gay legislation has been swept away and acceptance is at levels undreamt of even ten years ago. These advances are not to be sniffed at and there is much to be thankful for. I know this from my experience of emerging into adulthood in the 1980s, which seems a radically different era. Yet the public face of gay male life, noisily hedonistic and self-consciously triumphalist, glosses over the reality of personal unhappiness and collective callousness.

As far as gay rights are concerned, the culture war is largely won, but we are still fleeing from our inner demons. It is this flight, more than residual prejudice, that helps us to understand why levels of depression, anxiety, alcohol and drug dependency and suicide remain so high among gay men, young and old. We are faced with the paradox of a highly effective legislative lobby allied to a culture that is ever more narcissistic and heartless. This situation is compounded by a political movement based on outdated notions of blame and victimhood.

Since the dinner party I have talked to gay male friends of widely varying ages and backgrounds. Admittedly it is an unscientific poll, but I have found reserves of unhappiness with the much-celebrated 'gay lifestyle' that confirm my sense of a deeper malaise. There are many familiar complaints: the shallow commercialism of the 'scene', the petty emotional cruelties that dog so many of our friendships and even long-term relationships, the ageism, the embarrassing glibness of the activists.

Behind all these problems is the sense of stress involved in so many of our social interactions. They are not relaxed but self-conscious affairs, at which competition and jealousy, rivalry and sexual intrigue always bubble beneath the surface. Unlike the ethnic and religious minorities with which we compare ourselves, gay men have failed to create a community of shared values and mutual support. The word 'community' is trotted out for political purposes, but the stereotypes of bitchiness and backstabbing remain all too prominent features of gay men's lives.

Thus the defining myth of gay liberation has been turned on its head. Rather than finding security and support from each other, we seek relief in our relationship with the outer world, our dealings with 'straight society'. This is admitted with great reluctance and spoken of in hesitant whispers.

For at a time when the mainstream is more welcoming than ever before, the ethos underlying gay life still militates strongly against integration. While demanding equality, it stresses separateness, holding up the idea of the gay community as part ghetto, part laager, a defensive subculture demanding our loyalty on quasi-ethnic grounds. To admit that all is not well in the gay world, that we express ourselves better with our straight friends than with each other, is considered tantamount to blasphemy. As I type these words, I experience a twinge of guilt akin, perhaps, to that of the Jewish critic of Israeli policy. This mentality arises out of the collective historical memory of prejudice and our personal memories of coming to terms with our sexuality. It has become an insidious intellectual constraint, stifling self-criticism and imposing even on the least political among us a straitjacket of conformity.

Today, the most striking feature of gay politics is its lack of nuance. Feminists increasingly acknowledge the complexity of women's (and men's) lives, the anti-racist movement passionately debates multiculturalism, but the gay movement remains remarkably unreconstructed. Our problems, it maintains, do not arise from within ourselves, or from the choices we make, but from oppression by heterosexual society and anything perceived as traditional values.

That simplistic narrative holds sway across the spectrum of gay organisations, from the most radical to the ostensibly conservative. It at once denies us our individuality and absolves us of personal responsibility.

We can see the results of this approach in the gay press. Pick up a magazine like Gay Times, for instance, and you will not find a spectrum of social attitudes. Instead, politically correct victim culture is allied with rampant consumerism. Freedom is identified with a shopping list, whether of possessions or political demands. Throughout the gay media, consumerism is extended to the human person, who is reduced to a disposable item. Just as the ideology of victimhood is pervasive, so is the low-grade pornography, criticism of which is taboo. Any notion of self-restraint is condemned as oppressive.

Any spiritual aspiration any hope for anything beyond material and sexual satisfaction is derided as irrelevant. The vicissitudes of gay life, notably the culture of promiscuity, are alternately ascribed to the legacy of oppression (and therefore not our fault) and celebrated as a form of 'liberation'. Gay activism, which angrily expects our gratitude, perpetuates the idea that heterosexuals, especially heterosexual men, represent a hostile force. When I reveal that many of my closest friends are straight men, this is viewed as unusual, even slightly suspicious, as if to integrate were somehow to be letting the side down. This is despite the fact that homosexual law reforms have been enacted by parliaments consisting largely of heterosexual men.

The result of all this is a male homosexual culture that is simultaneously turned in on itself and unable to address its own shortcomings. It confuses morality and conscience with moralistic repression. Through this confusion, we become afraid to question the casual acceptance of promiscuity and pornography, and the shallow materialistic values that underpin it, lest we be accused of hypocritical puritanism. When we criticise the gay lifestyle, we are accused by activists of self-oppression, but the true oppression comes from within that lifestyle rather than from hostile external forces. In an age of equal rights, we have become our own victims, devoured by the movement we created.

I do not, in any sense, wish to suggest that I possess superior insight. Indeed I have committed all the lapses of judgment and taste that I have touched upon above, because I, like my dinner-party friend, have had to 'live in the gay world'. That world is failing to recognise that true liberation starts with the individual. Equality is worth little, ultimately, without compassion, responsibility and conscience. Now that the political battles are won, we should start to put our own house in order. This is much harder than repeating scripted slogans about rights, but at least it will mean better dinner parties.


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KEYWORDS: gay; gayagenda; homosexual; homosexualagenda
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To: FormerLib
Sorry to break this to you Blue Jays, but the number of ex-gays is increasing everyday. Having gotten past their self-destructive same-sex attraction disorder, they find a much more complete life for themselves as God and nature intended.

I like that decription, self-destructive same-sex attraction disorder. You nailed that one. And no, that was not a pun.....LOL
21 posted on 11/20/2006 4:39:01 PM PST by AJMaXx (ILU Roo.....!)
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To: Just another Joe

Great story and it's always nice to hear of someone making a change like that in life.

I am from the camp that people ARE born gay. My theory is that women under a particular kind of stress at a particular time of gestation causes changes in the hormonal makeup of the fetus/baby and causes homosexuality. Just my theory. But, I also look at it the same as, say, alcoholism. Most alcoholics claim this is genetic and/or a disease that they were born with the propensity to drink uncontrollably. But same w/ gays, IMO, you don't just say I was born this way therefore I drink myself into oblivion (although some do, many get sober--or repent). The same should be the lifestyle of gays. That they turn from this behavior and practice a life of celibacy or heterosexuality and not continue the behavior.

His article made alot of sense in that (even though he didn't directly say it) that it is completely unacceptable in the gay community to state you want to live a straight life. They go OFF on the Exodus group and anyone that talks of turning away or repenting from gay life.

Regardless, its a very sad life and he's right about the misery. I know several gays and they are all miserable. Every one of them. You cannot bond with the same sex like you do with the opposite sex. God didn't make us that way.


22 posted on 11/20/2006 4:54:03 PM PST by spacejunkie
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To: Blue Jays

If a man (or woman) realizes the error of their behavior and truly turns their life around are they to be scorned forever because they were once sleazy and promiscuous? I've known more than a few heterosexuals whose behavior was deplorable from a moral perspective. What about them? If you knew that a guy had once been a party animal but had since found God and was now living a good clean life, would they be acceptable?


23 posted on 11/20/2006 5:06:42 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: Centurion2000

Bingo! You gotta wonder about people who define themselves in terms of their own sexuality. Superficial and narcissistic beyond belief.


24 posted on 11/20/2006 5:11:44 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Show them no mercy, for you shall receive none!)
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To: madprof98; AFA-Michigan; Agitate; AliVeritas; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; BabaOreally; Balke; BigFinn; ..
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25 posted on 11/20/2006 5:12:37 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: madprof98

Sidebar for the forum...another classic from "Catholic Education" that
I've posted before.

(WARNING!!! Contains graphic content; but presented in context)

Judaism’s Sexual Revolution: Why Judaism (and then Christianity)
Rejected Homosexuality
by DENNIS PRAGER
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0003.html


26 posted on 11/20/2006 5:18:13 PM PST by VOA
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To: visualops
Hi visualops-

The former party animal can use maturity to outgrow his childish behavior and is MUCH more likely not to return to that former lifestyle. Additionally, the former party animal isn't nearly as likely as a so-called "ex-gay" man to infect a cherished daughter or niece with a horrible disease that is sure to kill.

~ Blue Jays ~

27 posted on 11/20/2006 5:20:45 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: protest1
Homosexuals now have most everything they claimed they needed to be "free" yet are still miserable.

The core of the problem for homosexuals is a mind-numbingly simple paradox, even though I would expect them to deny it vehemently. All they want is to have sex with a real man, but are forever doomed to settling for GBTs.

28 posted on 11/20/2006 5:28:06 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: spacejunkie

"My theory is that women under a particular kind of stress at a particular time of gestation causes changes in the hormonal makeup of the fetus/baby and causes homosexuality."

I prefer scientific statistics. For example, most practicing homosexual women have had an abortion before engaging in same sex behavior. Post traumatic stress disorders are probably what lead women to a defensive same sex attraction. Defensive, because to kill one's own child is a terrible tragedy. Many homosexual women don't stop being attracted to men (and are statistically more promiscuous), and I seriously doubt that "born gay" has much to do with such behavior. The human heart is always hungering for True Love. We will never find rest until we rest with God.


29 posted on 11/20/2006 5:28:38 PM PST by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" for the Unborn Child)
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To: AJMaXx; FormerLib
same-sex attraction disorder

SSAD.

Perfect!

30 posted on 11/20/2006 5:37:48 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: Blue Jays

Well, they have tests for diseases, and one is quite susceptible to STD's including AIDs if you are a promiscuous heterosexual. Sometimes immaturity is the reason behind promiscuousness and/or immoral behavior, but not always. If anything, I would question the mores of someone who felt "party animal" behavior was just being "immature" or simply sowing wild oats before "growing up" as that implies an agreement with that sort of behavior being acceptable and/or excusable under certain circumstances.


31 posted on 11/20/2006 5:51:03 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: madprof98; wagglebee; scripter; EdReform; Blue Jays

Homosexuality, as with any obsession, is idolatry.

That is the source of the emptiness.


32 posted on 11/20/2006 6:21:00 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Just another Joe
I told him in a friendly, but firm, manner that I was flattered but that I was a happily married man, in love with my wife, and couldn't/wouldn't entertain any notions of that manner.

You told him you were flattered? Seriously? As a woman, I can't imagine the reaction most hetero men would have is "flattered".

33 posted on 11/20/2006 6:29:19 PM PST by workerbee (Democrats are a waste of tax money and good oxygen.)
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To: workerbee

BTT


34 posted on 11/20/2006 7:10:02 PM PST by supremedoctrine ("Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can see"--Schopenhauer)
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To: workerbee
You told him you were flattered? Seriously? As a woman, I can't imagine the reaction most hetero men would have is "flattered".

Have you ever heard the expression "gentleman" before?

It sounds to me like the polite response of a man considerate of and concerned about another person's feelings.
35 posted on 11/20/2006 7:52:42 PM PST by SoulMan
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To: Blue Jays
Your work acquaintance won't stay straight.

He has for 10 years now. He's now a born again christian, with a wife and 2 children.

I think he rethought his life.

36 posted on 11/20/2006 7:57:45 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: workerbee
You told him you were flattered? Seriously? As a woman, I can't imagine the reaction most hetero men would have is "flattered".

I would tell anyone that was sexually attracted to me that I was flattered, but just the same I would firmly refuse any offers.

37 posted on 11/20/2006 8:00:43 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: madprof98
While demanding equality, it stresses separateness...

Isn't this the First Commandment of liberalism?

The author has covered the homosexual facet of the left nicely.

Also, witness the collegiate mantra of "multiculturalism". American culture isn't worthy of all the others, so don't pollute yourselves by integrating with them.

Black, Republican and always deferred to in discussions of racial equality, Martin Luther King preached equality, not affirmative action. He called for all nationalities to live together in peace and harmony, not for white submission to Black Power.

And the eternal Champions of the Freedom of Speech, our illustrious news outlets and esteemed universities will literally react with violence and wartime treason in the face of speech and expression that disagrees with their progressive dogma.

The Left has become the very embodiment of hypocrisy.

38 posted on 11/20/2006 8:07:43 PM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Blue Jays; madprof98; wagglebee; scripter; EdReform; Just another Joe; little jeremiah; ...
Would you be comfortable with your beautiful daughter or niece marrying an "ex-gay" who previously frequented bathhouses for anonymous sex?

I have seen this argument before and I find it disingenuous and disturbing as well as a ridiculous oversimplification.

What is the point? That one can never change one's life for the better? Once a sinner always a sinner? There can be no compassion for others?

If you take away the possibility of change, if no one can have the hope of a better life, then we might as well say that the "Gay Agenda" wins. Why fight it? What is the moral good? We are condemning a behavior that people can't change. That is cruel and unjust in the extreme.

I'll say from my experience you can't make general rules about what will make a marriage work or know whether a man will prove himself a worthy husband beforehand.

Question: If your beautiful daughter/niece marries a hard-driving, hard rockin' heterosexual, how does she know that on the day when she is no longer physically beautiful (which inevitably comes), he won't go hunting' for other women? I think it's happened on more than one occasion.
39 posted on 11/20/2006 8:14:36 PM PST by SoulMan
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To: dinoparty

I will give an entire paycheck to the first telethon that is devoted to searching for a cure for homosexuality.

This is just a temporary thing, this 'normalizing' of what is clearly a disorder.

Somebody's going to do the math and figure out that this is curable.


40 posted on 11/20/2006 8:19:23 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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