Freeper exclusive: Weapons cache demolition causes many to be sick from exposure in Baghdad

private e-mails | 11/16/2006 | RaceBannon

[RaceBannon]

I just received a private e-mail from someone I know from a Marine website who has family in Iraq. There has been a weapons cache explosion that caused many, hundreds of people to be exposed to some chemical that was present in the weapons.

[MizSterious]

I considered the report credible too, based on who posted it. Allegra's comments are pertinent though. This report sure did bring out the pollyannas ("there is no such thing as wmd in Iraq, tra-la"), though, didn't it?

[Chickenhawk Warmonger]

I've checked over at our favorite "resistance website" albasrah.net. They don't have anything up on it yet but they do claim that our soldiers are gunning innocent young men down for no reason while the "resistance fighters" are killing members of the "puppet government" at will. Watch for a news flash from Time or Newsweak claiming more atrocities by our soldiers.

[batter]

We'll see. Saddam likely transferred much of his WMD to Syria (preferably, he hid it in the desert). We'll just have to be patient and see if there was a WMD dump burried under conventional munitions. If so, the story will have legs, although it will be spun as "Bush failed to secure WMD" and "US troops harm Iraqis with chemical cloud" by the MSM.

I wouldn't get my shorts in a wad yet, regardless of the side of the WMD issue you may be on.

[Blue State Insurgent]

By chance, are you a Buchananite?

[Ole Okie]

I admit: I missed your meaning on first reading.

So I second your redeployment of the weapons cache in the way you meant. :^))

[Zhangliqun]

Still avoiding the issue. We OBVIOUSLY have to talk in great depth about strategy and tactics. But there's no reason we can't walk and chew gum at the same time by devising a strategy and by holding accountable the appeasers in high places who will do everything they can to DERAIL any such strategy.

All the talk in the world on a strategy for victory is useless if the public isn't galvanized behind the effort and the reflexively anti-war crowd isn't finally shunted back off to the lunatic fringe, otherwise the slightest setback makes everyone want to quit and elect more appeasers.

I'm guessing you want to hear what I think, and one part of it is that we have to interdict insurgent supply lines that make them viable, most of which are coming out of Syrian and Iran. Sooner or later, barring a revolution by the Iranian people, war with Iran is inevitable.

And this is precisely why the Home Front is the most crucial theater in the war: only a public as hardcore behind the war effort as it was in WW2 will make it possible for us to get enough troops to fight on several fronts. The Appeaso-crats who want us to believe in their nihilist/relativist/post-modern way that there is no such thing as treason or sedition, only "dissent", will make that impossible as long as they are in the majority.

[Zhangliqun]

By dismissing me as some leftist / commie tool you have cut off many like me who actually want to win in Iraq - many of them voted Dem for just those reasons.

You really think the Democrats want to win in Iraq? All they ever talk about is how it's a war just for oil and Halliburton, and Bush lied to get us in there and how he should be impeached. Kerry ran on the "wrong war, wrong place, wrong time", and proceeded along with his supporters to stuff the Iraq war into the template of the Democrats' favorite war, Vietnam (because we lost). Murtha regularly accuses his fellow Marines of war crimes while saying absolutely NOTHING about their accomplishments and calls for "redeployment over the horizon" (withdrawal).

On top of that, they remain suspiciously silent when crackpot theories are voiced by the Moore/Sheehan crowd about how the Jews and/or neocons blew up the WTC and it was a cruise missile that hit the Pentagon. Or in some cases, like Howard Dean and Cynthia McKinney and Maxine Waters, they openly endorse such theories.

Sounds to me like the Dems think the war is a horrible mistake at best and an evil conspiracy at worst. If they really believe that, then the ONLY possible course of action is immediate withdrawal. Please explain to me how any of that (or anything else leading Democrats have said) indicates the Democrats are gung-ho to win. When Democrats say "stop", are you in the habit of telling everyone they really mean "go"?

Look pal, I've got nothing personal against you, I don't hate you, I don't want you dead, I don't wish you any harm. I would just like you to stop dodging our questions and repeating "well, let's just look to the future on how to win". Have you ever heard the saying "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it"? We can't win by voting for those who want us to lose.

[Zhangliqun]

Feeble response, VaMarVet. You got beat.

Like a rented mule. He did nothing but dodge question after question and basically say regarding the Dems and the stupid things they have said and done on the war: "Show's over, move along, nothing to see here."

He then complains about how we're not willing to look at alternative views but DOESN'T OFFER ANY. He just says, let's just forget the past and think about how to win, as if we're not doing that, but offers not victory strategies of his own other than to vote Democrat.

I think he's very young...

[Zhangliqun]

the sarin subway attack in Japan was ideal conditons for sarin killing a bazillion people, yet I seem to recall hardly anybody died and there were hardly any injuries...

12 died with hundreds more injured. A lot depends on how quickly/widely it is dispersed. Apparently it didn't go all that far because there's no breeze in a subway.

[Zhangliqun]

I'm still having a hard time thinking that something happened four days ago which lead to hundreds of people falling sick and the incident has been reported nowhere other than in this thread.

Surely, even if the US was successfully keeping somekind of news blackout, there would be other individuals in the area reporting it on the internet?

It could be an issue of not wanting to reveal sources and methods.

[Canard]

" It could be an issue of not wanting to reveal sources and methods."

By who? I don't really understand what you're referring to.

My point was that a four day news blackout on an incident that has left hundreds of people sick seems improbable to me. Even if US authorities could persuade the US media to go along with that, I can't see why the local media wouldn't be aware, able to talk to people in the affected area and reporting it.

[Zhangliqun]

I meant that as a possible explanation why we're not hearing anything from the Pentagon.

But as for the reporters on the scene, who would they report it to that would actually be interested in telling a story that might make Bush look good -- Al Jazeera? CNN? Remember, we're dealing with an American and global media that now regularly alters photographs. So that the media in Iraq might report only that a weapons cache was blown up without going into further detail about anyone getting sick -- or subtly framing the story to appear as if the sicknesses are a separate/unrelated incident -- is hardly beyond the pail for them.

I agree it's a bit strange, but not quite as far fetched as you think.

[OldCorps]

btt

[Go Gordon]

Sorry but I think an I-told-you-so is VERY MUCH in order. The Democrats called the President a liar and used this accusation

...to weaken our coalition support and reduced our ability to form another coalition when we need to go into Iran.

[Zhangliqun]

I also forgot to mention in that post that they have redefined treason as just "dissent".

[STARWISE]

Continuing prayer bump for the safety and protection of our troops.

[SeenTheLight]

Ran this by a buddy in the Air Force (serving stateside) and he was skeptical. Had this to say:

Of course, it SOUNDS scary at first, but I would want a few more bits of info. For example, 10th (Brokeback) Mountain Div. is all over, including Tallil/ Camp Adder, so was it thier UXO guys or what? With AF guys, they almost never detonate stuff in place, but account for and record ordinance. When anything unusual occurs, samples are taken and NBC gear is broken out immeadiatly. They usually carry gas masks on them, and it all sounds kind of bogus to me.

[justa-hairyape]

In some cases now we are just acting as advisor's on missions. The Iraqi Army may have been in charge of the demolition of the cache or they could have at least given some input into the operation.

Also concerning reporters, there are hardly any over there now. An article on Townhall.com states that the number of embedded reporters is below 20. Might have something to do with major media figures getting hurt. And of course the horrendous negatively biased reports they have been filing in the past.

[saveliberty]

Thanks, AliVeritas!