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To: Kenny Bunk
"What they were celibate from didn't matter."

I think you have hit the nail on the head, and I would like to go a bit further. It seems to me that once there are a few homosexuals in an organization, they seem to attract and select more homosexuals to join. A well-known example of this is the New York Times editorial and reporting ranks.

I have also been struck by the increasing numbers of gays serving as aides in Congress.

Another example is the Episopal Church, which is not only increasingly filled with gay clergy but has even elevated a practicing homosexual to a high position.

What I do not know is whether this is simply an instinctive discrimination in favor of gays by those who prefer to be with people who think as they do, or whether it is an actual plot by the gays and the left, weird as that seems. The increased pressure for recognizing same-sex marriages and such in the mainline Protestant denominations certainly makes me wonder.

At any rate, I am interested in this investigation, and think it money well spent. If the investigation can identify seminaries that are screening out straight men, groups of homosexuals who are working from within the Church for their own ends, or poor practices in reviewing seminary applicants, it will be a good thing.

319 posted on 11/17/2006 4:47:24 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
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To: Miss Marple
The increased pressure for recognizing same-sex marriages and such in the mainline Protestant denominations certainly makes me wonder.

I don't think you're being paranoid to consider a 'conspiracy'. I have thought for a long time that liberals have placed themselves in positions of influence on Congressional staffs, in Chanceries of Catholic Dioceses, and as we've seen, in Seminaries for both Catholic and other Chrisian churches. This has been done to steer ideas to the liberal side, and we have seen that happen.

One reason the Catholic Church had such a problem after Vatican II, was that the people who were directing the changes wanted to go farther than what the Documents actually said. They wanted to see the Church more modernized, so they made changes that infuriated traditional Catholics, but when those people complained to the Chanceries, they ran into brick walls because the liberals had gotten themselves entrenched and refused to listen. That's why some folks just gave up completely, or bypassed the Diocese and went directly to Rome to complain.

Thankfully, this began to wane a few years ago; maybe some of those early libs began retiring, and more traditional folks realized they needed to be in those position, so began doing so. Also Pope John Paul II, with the assistance of Cardinal Ratzinger, began cracking down on some of the more egregious abuses. I believe Pope Benedict will continue that work he began with JPII.

I believe the CHurch sexual abuse scandal erupted when it did in Boston as 'cover' for the Supreme Judicial Court to make its pronouncement about homosexual marriage. I believe the Boston Globe was in collusion with the SJC, and that the relentless media was designed to negate any influence the Church might have had in fighting the idea of homosexual marriage. In fact, after Cardinal Law had retired, the Globe had an editorial crowing about exactly that, that the Church shouldn't have anything to say about any moral matters because of the abuse scandal.

353 posted on 11/17/2006 3:31:20 PM PST by SuziQ
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