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1.) Without us, the Dems would have all three Houses and permanent supermajorities.

2.) The social Libertarian/secular Republican group is waaaaaaay smaller than he wants to admit, as most of those people waffle during elections and prefer to be called Moderates and Independents. About 90% of those that actually exist write for these type of publications.

3.) Without us, 5% of this country would be in support of the Iraq war (reconstruction, that is) right now.

4.) Martin types don't work phone banks, organize 503-C groups, walk precincts in the last 72-hours, raise massive small donations, or volunteer time after work to help individual campaigns.

Come to think of it, Martin is more worthless to the actual GOP than anyone I can think of right now.

I thought there was more of a variance of opinion among Evangelicals regarding the war in Iraq. Yes, I would say that this group is among the more patriotic of Americans, but even they can recognize a stupid decision when they see one. The dilemma is this for me; Should we have gone into Iraq in the first place?--- NO. But the president made the decision to go in, we are there, the place is a mess, do we just cut and run?----NO. The Democrats obviously don't have a good enough answer for me. It is difficult for the American psyche to accept losing in war and sometimes we can be bullheaded. I really feel that if we cut and run at this point, the situation will be worse for America than it would ever would have been if we never went into Iraq in the first place. The main problem is that we didn't go in their to kick a$$--we went in there as social workers. So you not only have left over Baathists & jihadis with guns. You have local Sunni and Shiite militias, plain old thugs, and US trained Iraqi security forces with guns all trying to get a piece of the action and seeking vengeance----chaos par excellance. The only chance of salvaging the situation is to do some a$$ kicking--starting with the Mahdi Army. Sadr is an Iranian puppet. If we string his behind up on a lamp post it will send a message to Iran that we're not joking. I know this is wishful thinking at this point in time--Bush ain't gonna go there. So what do you think? Pull out gradually and give the appearance that we've accomplished something more than just removing Saddam Hussein from power? Also---allow every Chaldean Christian to come to the US, because we all know they will eventually be massacred (another thing the Bushies don't give a hoot about).

"1.) Without us, the Dems would have all three Houses and permanent supermajorities."

No, without you, we would have attracted a lot more votes that were otherwise driven to the other side.

I myself almost did not vote because of religeous nutjobs. The day of voting, I held my nose and decided to do it one last time. And I was one of the 537 Volusia county voters who put W over the top in 2000. Stood on a street corner with a W sign during the recount. Poll watcher, and member here since 1997.

If you nutjobs are still around next election, I might vote dem.

BTW, when you respond, please fall on the floor and talk in tongues, nutcase.