[scripter]

Since Saddleback is Warren's church the statement of faith tells us what Warren believes. Separating the statement of faith from everything else about him, that is his teaching, actions, writings and associations is to create an incomplete picture of the man.

As I suspected, we don't agree on the definintion of a primary theological issue, and that could make further discussion difficult because we'll be talking right past each other.

[pby]

If I were considering becoming a member at Saddleback, I would analyze their statement of faith.

If I want to know what Warren, himself, believes, it will be found in his writings, actions and associations.

And Warren isn't selling Saddleback's satement of faith to 30 million individuals and 400,000 churches...He has sold The PDL, The PDC and his other 40 Days PD stuff to them.

It is an independent analysis based on the content there within.

[pby]

Should pastors be distorting the message of Scripture and its doctrines?

Should pastors be associating with false teachers and endorsing them and their teachings?

Do those two issues not go to the heart of the primary role of a pastor, which is to feed and protect the sheep?

Why would Warren be involved in such things and are they sloppiness and/or purposeful?

Again, how does a Christian discern between those who are masquerading and those who are the real thing? What is the answer to this question (you haven't answered it several times)?

On my way to Church...Have a good Sunday.