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To: Sunsong
As stated/posted previously, I have not condemned Rick Warren (however loosely you use/define that term).

In an Acts 17:11 comparison, I do not think that some of Warren's teaching and activities line up with Scripture. This is not condemnation.

Why would the fact that the AIDS Summit is on a Thursday and Friday give reason for me to apologize? I knew the date (Dec. 1) and day from the content of the article.

The issue has never been with the day that Obama was going to speak at Saddleback...It has always been that he is an unbelieving, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual individual and that he was going to speak at all, at Saddleback.

460 posted on 11/21/2006 6:09:21 AM PST by pby
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To: pby

Amen.


461 posted on 11/21/2006 6:23:15 AM PST by Sue Perkick (The true gospel is a call to self-denial. It is not a call to self-fulfillment..John MacArthur)
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To: pby
The issue has never been with the day that Obama was going to speak at Saddleback...It has always been that he is an unbelieving, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual individual and that he was going to speak at all, at Saddleback.

Then I would suggest that that it is not your decision to make - since you are not the Pastor of Saddleback. Bono will also be there - as well as Bill and Melinda Gates and others who do not believe what you do about abortion or homosexuality.

My point has always been that it was unneccessary to condemn Rick Warren. That there is a difference between criticizing and condemning and that posts in this thread crossed the line from criticism to condemnation.

I am not going to go back and read all your posts. If you claim you haven't condemned Mr Warren - I will take your word for it. But it then becomes all the more questionable to me why you have engaged me with so many posts. I told you early on that I had no interest in discussing your dogma or your doctrine. But you chose not to respect that. You say that you want to be sure the Gospel as you understand it is properly represented - but that does not require you writing to me. And, if it is the case, that you do not condemn Rick Warren and since what I am taking issue with is the condemnation of Rick Warren - I see no good reason for you to have written to me about docrtrinal matters that you want to be sure are included in this thread.

467 posted on 11/21/2006 11:15:30 AM PST by Sunsong
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To: pby
The issue has never been with the day that Obama was going to speak at Saddleback...It has always been that he is an unbelieving, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual individual and that he was going to speak at all, at Saddleback.

Yeah, for me the Friday date doesn't really change anything. Considering Obama's political positions on social issues, he shouldn't speak in Warren's church or any church for that matter

476 posted on 11/21/2006 5:58:27 PM PST by scripter ("If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Romans 12:18)
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