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To: Sunsong; raygun; scripter
Those who hate and condemn can always justify it. Look at the Islamists - they claim that God wants them to kill those who disagree with them. It's an age-old excuse - if you ask me.

OK, time out!

Nobody here is advocating the death or injury of Rick Warren. That would be abhorrent to Christians. Your analogy is therefore flawed. You have also made accusations of the motives of the critics of Warren on this thread that are not based on any evidentual value. The zeal to proclaim doctrine as incorrect does not equal hatred. Another flawed analogy.

You have made your position clear, namely that you are NOT looking at doctrine in respect to this matter, and in respect to Rick Warren in general. Well and good.

We however, ARE looking at doctrinal matters. It is furthermore our contention that erronious doctrine will always manifest itself in erronious practise, except possibly for the situation where the logic in applying the erronious doctrine is also flawed (sometimes that CAN result in a true conclusion).

Being that this is a doctrinal matter to us that we are at present examining, you are talking past others on this thread. If you wish to examine the 'good works' of Rick Warren, i would suggest that you should probably start another thread for that purpose. The present acribing of motives to posters who do not agree with you to 'hatred' is more reminiscent of the tactics of Dr. Phill than they are to a Freerepublic poster.

315 posted on 11/17/2006 8:41:12 AM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
You have made your position clear, namely that you are NOT looking at doctrine in respect to this matter, and in respect to Rick Warren in general. Well and good.

We however, ARE looking at doctrinal matters.

Here's the problem with your reasoning. You all are choosing to write posts to me and so you are asking for my opinion. I have indeed made it clear that I am not interested in discussing dogma with you. And yet, what continues to happen? Posts addressed to me discussing dogma.

What that means is that you will get my opinion. If you want to start a hate and condemn Rick Warren thread I suggest that you start a new thread.

My view is that you all are more like Islamists than Christians. That is how I see you. You are obsessed with purity and miss the point of love and forgiveness and good works.

There is the joke of the self-righteous group of Christians in a walled off room in heaven and others smiling and quietly walking by that room so as not to disturb their sense that they are the only ones there. I would suggest that those who are so quick to condemn others spend twenty minutes or so deeply refelcting on that joke.

While those here pat one another on the back about how great their understanding of scripture is - others stop and help a person in need and Mr. Warren is reaching millions. Again, I say the irony is probably lost on you.

320 posted on 11/17/2006 9:44:36 AM PST by Sunsong
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