We however, ARE looking at doctrinal matters.
Here's the problem with your reasoning. You all are choosing to write posts to me and so you are asking for my opinion. I have indeed made it clear that I am not interested in discussing dogma with you. And yet, what continues to happen? Posts addressed to me discussing dogma.
What that means is that you will get my opinion. If you want to start a hate and condemn Rick Warren thread I suggest that you start a new thread.
My view is that you all are more like Islamists than Christians. That is how I see you. You are obsessed with purity and miss the point of love and forgiveness and good works.
There is the joke of the self-righteous group of Christians in a walled off room in heaven and others smiling and quietly walking by that room so as not to disturb their sense that they are the only ones there. I would suggest that those who are so quick to condemn others spend twenty minutes or so deeply refelcting on that joke.
While those here pat one another on the back about how great their understanding of scripture is - others stop and help a person in need and Mr. Warren is reaching millions. Again, I say the irony is probably lost on you.
i suggest that you re-read the post that i made to you. You will discover the following things to be true:
What that means is that you will get my opinion. If you want to start a hate and condemn Rick Warren thread I suggest that you start a new thread.
Here you go again with ascribing disagreement=hatred. No basis for that. You disagree with me, does that mean that you hate me? i could easily hoist you on your own petard, and acribe your comments on this thread to hatred for Rick Warren critics.
My view is that you all are more like Islamists than Christians. That is how I see you. You are obsessed with purity and miss the point of love and forgiveness and good works.
There is the joke of the self-righteous group of Christians in a walled off room in heaven and others smiling and quietly walking by that room so as not to disturb their sense that they are the only ones there. I would suggest that those who are so quick to condemn others spend twenty minutes or so deeply refelcting on that joke.
Interesting. Now we're getting somewhere.
Love? Forgiveness? Good Works? Every one of those terms are matters of dogmatics. Even to define the terms leads you to arguing dogma. In short, you've embarked on a fool's errand if you think you can ignore dogma. Indeed, you appeal to it throughout your posts with words such as "Good works", "Love", "Forgiveness", "Hatred", et al.
Makes me wonder if your demonstrable hostility to Christianity, as demonstrated in the quote above, is your real motivation for posting to this thread.
While those here pat one another on the back about how great their understanding of scripture is - others stop and help a person in need and Mr. Warren is reaching millions. Again, I say the irony is probably lost on you.
What good works? It seems as if you're assuming what you're trying to prove. Let's look at the fruits of Warren's ministry. This is a piece that is critical of Rick Warren's ministry. You might find it to be a relief in that it does not discuss theology to any great extent, rather it discusses The Raw Numbers. If "good works" was a measure of God's blessing, then i contend that we should all be Mormons, or Scientologists. Of course, that may appeal to some on this board.