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Nursing mom says plane kicked her off
Yahoo ^ | 11/15/06

Posted on 11/15/2006 6:38:55 PM PST by Mr. Brightside

Nursing mom says plane kicked her off

Wed Nov 15, 1:22 PM ET

BURLINGTON, Vt. - A woman who claims she was kicked off an airplane because she was breast-feeding her baby has filed a complaint against two airlines, her attorney said.

Emily Gillette, 27, of Santa Fe, N.M., filed the complaint with the Vermont Human Rights Commission late last week against Delta Air Lines and Freedom Airlines, said her attorney, Elizabeth Boepple. Freedom was operating the Delta flight between Burlington and New York City.

Gillette said she was discreetly breast-feeding her 22-month-old daughter on Oct. 13 as their flight prepared to leave Burlington International Airport. She said she was seated by the window in the next-to-last row, her husband was seated between her and the aisle and no part of her breast was showing.

A flight attendant tried to hand her a blanket and told her to cover up, Gillette said. She declined, telling the flight attendant she had a legal right to breast-feed her baby.

Moments later, a Delta ticket agent approached and said the flight attendant had asked that the family be removed from the flight, Gillette said. She said she didn't want to make a scene and complied.

"It embarrassed me. That was my first reaction, which is a weird reaction for doing something so good for a child," Gillette said Monday.

A Freedom spokesman said Gillette was asked to leave the flight after she declined the blanket.

"A breast-feeding mother is perfectly acceptable on an aircraft, providing she is feeding the child in a discreet way," that doesn't bother others, said Paul Skellon, spokesman for Phoenix-based Freedom. "She was asked to use a blanket just to provide a little more discretion, she was given a blanket, and she refused to use it, and that's all I know."

A complaint against two airlines was filed with the Vermont Human Rights Commission, although Executive Director Robert Appel said he was barred by state law from confirming the complaint. He said state law allows a mother to breast-feed in public.

The Vermont Human Rights Commission investigates complaints and determines whether discrimination may have occurred. The parties to a complaint are given six months to reach a settlement. If none is reached, the commission then decides whether to go to court. A complainant can file a separate suit in state court at any time.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Mexico; US: Vermont
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To: HitmanLV
You assumed the flight attendant was a man and ran with it.

"I suspect the flight attendant was a man but they don't say."

That's assuming? Not likely.

I suspect you were more offended by the last part of my post:

"In my experience only men are offended by a baby breasfeeding. Why? I have no idea."

Feeling guilty?

101 posted on 11/15/2006 7:45:13 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

By six months my children had teeth and were able to eat human food. But, I still breastfed them past the age of two. Well, that is, when I wasn't pregnant with one of their siblings. My youngest is two and still nurses.


102 posted on 11/15/2006 7:45:28 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: raybbr

Not at all. I just find your assumptions silly and your conclusions dubious.

In other words, you fit right in on FR.


103 posted on 11/15/2006 7:46:15 PM PST by HitmanLV ("Get up, come on get down with the sickness.")
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To: Torie
Gillette said she was seated in the second-to-last row, next to the window, when she began to breast-feed her daughter. Breast-feeding helps babies with the altitude changes through takeoff and landings, Gillette said. She said she was being discreet -- her husband was seated between her and the aisle -- and no part of her breast was showing.

Gillette said that's when a flight attendant approached her, trying to hand her a blanket and directing her to cover up. Gillette said she told the attendant she was exercising her legal right to breast-feed, declining the blanket. That's when Gillette alleges the attendant told her, "You are offending me," and told her to cover up her daughter's head with the blanket.From here.

In your mischaracterization you missed the facts.

104 posted on 11/15/2006 7:46:35 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Alouette

Breast shame is next to bonnets and burkas. It's only weird, jealous people who can't cope with their own arousal.


105 posted on 11/15/2006 7:47:05 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: mockingbyrd

People who try to prevent the natural care and nurturing of children are whackos, plain and simple.



How does a piece of fabric prevent any of that?


106 posted on 11/15/2006 7:49:01 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: HitmanLV
In other words, you fit right in on FR.

And you are posting FR because....?

107 posted on 11/15/2006 7:49:25 PM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: HitmanLV
I still have no idea what your process is to distinguish between a good natural thing and a bad one

Maybe he's saying there's good naked and bad naked.

108 posted on 11/15/2006 7:49:32 PM PST by Defiant (Dems don't want to lose Iraq, they just want Hillary to win it and then fly onto a carrier.)
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To: SteveMcKing
Was the blanket obviously clean, or was it frequently used on the plane? I wouldn't want some filthy public thing that close to my infant.

Airline blankets and pillows make me sqeamish, as well.

Just a small point though, the child is nearly two-years-old, not an infant.

No way was I breastfeeding my son at that age. To use or not to use a blanket was not an issue for us. Cheerios and juice sufficed to keep a toddler entertained and fed when travelling.

109 posted on 11/15/2006 7:49:37 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: Mr. Brightside
There once was a dame named Gillette,
Who breast fed her babe on plane jet,
Told to hide her bare nipple, 
She hired attorney named Boepple,
Just to  get he face in every gazette.

110 posted on 11/15/2006 7:49:46 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Who invented rock and roll hiccups?)
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To: mockingbyrd
Babies are still very picky eaters and the only way to guarantee they are getting the proper nutrition is to breast feed or use formula, which is obscenely expensive.

I'm very pro-breastfeeding and side with the mother on this , and only make this comment to state that my 13 month old son is anything but picky. Just tonight, he sampled some bear meat, caribou, moose, smoked salmon, deer, and a very small piece of "bon voyage" cake that was purchased to send off a family friend who is going on a surge deployment for the Navy tomorrow. And one of those meats was heavily peppered. Maybe he's just a strange kid.

111 posted on 11/15/2006 7:51:02 PM PST by Equality 7-2521
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To: nmh

"Even then, breast milk is the foundation of optimal nutrition. I agree with the World Health Organization in urging mothers to breast feed exclusively for six months, and to continue to breast feed "for up to two years of age or beyond"." (http://www.drgreene.com/21_797.html)

"The American Academy of Pediatrics currently recommends that "Breastfeeding should be continued for at least the first year of life and beyond for as long as mutually desired by mother and child.." * The World Health Organization and UNICEF recommend that babies be breastfed for at least two years."
(http://www.lalecheleague.org/FAQ/advantagetoddler.html)

What was that about normal pediatrician? Most encourage it as long as it is working for both the mother and child. How many conversations have you had with pediatricians about breastfeeding?

Why waste money on formula when everyone knows that breastmilk is far superior. That's why every formula commercial includes the phrase "breastmilk is best for your baby?" I'm not going to waste money, at $25.00 a can (at Walmart no less), on an inferior food source.

And it's illegal to tell me I have to stop breastfeeding or leave.


112 posted on 11/15/2006 7:52:16 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: raybbr

Force of habit.


113 posted on 11/15/2006 7:53:07 PM PST by HitmanLV ("Get up, come on get down with the sickness.")
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To: definitelynotaliberal

Actually no, they encourage the introduction of solid foods at about that age, but if you continue to take vitamins, your child is getting all the nutrition she needs from your breastmilk.


114 posted on 11/15/2006 7:53:43 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: Defiant

That's legit, I just want to know what makes one bad and what makes one good. I want some insight into the process.


115 posted on 11/15/2006 7:53:45 PM PST by HitmanLV ("Get up, come on get down with the sickness.")
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To: SteveMcKing

Was the blanket obviously clean, or was it frequently used on the plane? I wouldn't want some filthy public thing that close to my infant.



What's wrong with bringing one's own baby blanket? Isn't that kinda standard procedure?


116 posted on 11/15/2006 7:54:51 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Balding_Eagle

What facts?


117 posted on 11/15/2006 7:56:59 PM PST by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: Beelzebubba

What I think supersedes all of this is the important tradition on planes and boats alike: "captain = God".

His crew are the angels. You obey orders, or else get off the ship.


118 posted on 11/15/2006 7:57:09 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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To: raybbr
I am not sure what I missed. She refused the blanket. Someone claimed that using a blanket freaks a bab out, and that is a no-no. That sounds questionable to me, but on that one, I have no personal knowledge, and in fact no knowledge whatsoever. It sounds bogus. If it were not, and was in general true, there would be no such airline policy. That is the Occam's Razor conclusion.
119 posted on 11/15/2006 7:57:21 PM PST by Torie
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To: Balding_Eagle
The woman had every right to refuse a blanket. How does an airline have the right to force anyone to use a blanket? The woman was kicked off for refusing to take an offered blanket. And maybe she was a little snippy about her response because maybe she had to put up with 3 hours of crap just to get on the airplane.
I breastfed my 3 children and I am shocked at the responses on this thread.
120 posted on 11/15/2006 7:57:23 PM PST by Boxsford
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