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1 posted on 11/15/2006 1:50:59 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 11/15/2006 1:51:41 PM PST by NYer (Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
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"Justice Brian McGovern said most agreed frozen embryos resulting from infertility treatment deserved special respect but ruled "the right to life of the unborn" in the Irish constitution did not extend to them."

Interesting use of the word 'them' in the context of denying their humanity.

If they aren't human, wouldn't 'those' be more accurate?

3 posted on 11/15/2006 2:01:09 PM PST by GourmetDan
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Apparently, life, under the Irish Constitution, is cheap.


4 posted on 11/15/2006 2:09:09 PM PST by My2Cents
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I wish our constitution gave as much protection as the Irish constitution, even if it does have a loophole for frozen embryos.

But think about this -- if a frozen embryo was treated by law as identical to a fetus in a womb, then you could be prosecuted for murder I guess if you made a lab error and killed one of them, or if the power went out and the cryogenics stopped working.

Can we really say that a lab mishap with an embryo is the same as taking action to kill a growing fetus in a womb?


6 posted on 11/15/2006 2:29:42 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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The Irish Supreme Court has been trying to legalise abortion since 1992, even though Bunreacht na heireann [Constitution of Ireland] specifically forbids it:

FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS

Personal Rights

Article 40

3. 3° The State acknowledges the right to life of the unborn and, with due regard to the equal right to life of the mother, guarantees in its laws to respect, and, as far as practicable, by its laws to defend and vindicate that right.

Ireland Ping.

9 posted on 11/15/2006 3:14:58 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!|What if I lecture Americans about America?)
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Good.


13 posted on 11/15/2006 3:48:13 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Libertarians are more conservative than pubbies. Strictest interpretation of the constitution,)
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All embryos are life, right? So Miscariages should involve 911, and everything possible should be tried to save the fetus.

Even if it is one week. Even if it is a little ball of cells, or even one cell.

Right, everyone?


14 posted on 11/15/2006 3:51:51 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Libertarians are more conservative than pubbies. Strictest interpretation of the constitution,)
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39 posted on 11/15/2006 7:18:39 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Frozen embryos have no right to life: Irish court

So what?!

Neither do thawed out ones, implanted ones, ones that are still inside Mom, and soon, coming to a 'caring' facility near you, ones that have been born, but are considered to have 'poor chances' in life!

46 posted on 11/16/2006 4:05:22 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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