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To: ConservativeMajority
Not to worry; the social conservatives will torpedo any run for the Presidency.

He's divorced; unclean. Christ would never approve of him running. /s?

12 posted on 11/15/2006 8:45:56 AM PST by zarf
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To: zarf
Not to worry; the social conservatives will torpedo any run for the Presidency.

Hmmmm...that's funny. As a social conservative, I've been saying since November 8th that we need Newt in a position of power in the Republican Party. But thank you for correcting this error. I now see that I must view him as unclean, since its impossible for us social conservatives to support someone when they don't ascribe to our own personal agendas.

Right?

26 posted on 11/15/2006 8:56:16 AM PST by The Blitherer (In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But, in practice, there is.)
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To: zarf
He's divorced; unclean. Christ would never approve of him running. /s?

I'm as socially conservative as they come. He is no longer acceptable for an Elder position in a church, but he can still be the president just fine.

27 posted on 11/15/2006 8:57:25 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Man defiles a rock when he chips it with a tool. Ex 20:25)
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To: zarf

We're hiring the guy to kill jihadis, not a marriage counselor.


33 posted on 11/15/2006 9:06:49 AM PST by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: zarf

I can bet that there will be plenty of D-I-V-O-R-C-E-D in heaven. I will be one of them! :) Now my exhusband... that is another story!


34 posted on 11/15/2006 9:07:18 AM PST by JFC
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To: zarf
I belong to a Church called "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" and these same people say I'm not a Christian. They obviously have forgotten a rather central doctrine called forgiveness. Let he who is without sin cast off the first candidate. I am hopeful Newt will make his move. For whatever his failings have been, he has always been forthright with the body politic. I do not know enough about Romney, but it is equally ridiculous that these "social conservatives" or evangelicals would cast a vote against a man, regardless if his political ideals, because he isn't a member of their church. I share your dismay.
36 posted on 11/15/2006 9:11:41 AM PST by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: zarf
Not to worry; the social conservatives will torpedo any run for the Presidency.

That's dumb and wrong. I'm as socially conservative as anyone and I want Newt front and center. I think he'd be better at advising Congressional Republicans on how to win in '08 but if the choise for the nomination were between him and rudy or McCain I'd vote for Newt in a second.

43 posted on 11/15/2006 9:42:51 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: zarf

Its not so much hes divorced that makes him look bad. Its that his wife was dying that does it.


52 posted on 11/15/2006 9:59:23 AM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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To: zarf

I am a social conservative. Stop being so ignorant and condescending.


87 posted on 11/15/2006 10:44:07 AM PST by Blogger
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To: zarf

He's divorced; unclean. Christ would never approve of him running

REAGAN WAS DIVORCED TOO


140 posted on 11/15/2006 3:08:02 PM PST by LC HOGHEAD (BOYCOTT TARGET and its French owners for their Anti-military Anti-American ways)
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To: zarf

WHAT???????? Who are we to judge anyone in that manner.


145 posted on 11/15/2006 4:51:11 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: zarf
Not to worry; the social conservatives will torpedo any run for the Presidency.

Yeah, that bothers me too. So many who are professed followers of Christ find it so hard to abide His command to "Judge not...".

Matthew 18

23 ¶ Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.

24 And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.

25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.

26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.

27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.

28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.

29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.

30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.

31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.

32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:

33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?

34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.

35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.

Sounds to me like he wasn't kidding.
157 posted on 11/16/2006 8:03:03 AM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: zarf
He's divorced; unclean. Christ would never approve of him running. /s?

Your allegation is without base. Reagan was divorced, and many social conservatives voted for him. My concern for Newt is that he address (1) his work as Speaker in which he presided over a very poorly run 1998 campaign which let Clinton off the hook; and (2) his difficult personal life, well beyond his divorce.

I would never describe anyone as unclean, because with Christ all can be clean.

161 posted on 11/16/2006 8:24:17 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: zarf

I should also add that I don't demand that my candidate be a professed Christian to gain my vote.


163 posted on 11/16/2006 8:26:15 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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