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The Libertarian Effect
Real Clear Politics ^ | 11/13/06 | ROSS KAMINSKY

Posted on 11/14/2006 6:25:58 PM PST by Purple GOPer

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To: Dead Corpse

If Republicans put up the insane guy or the guy in the dress...I'm with you. :) However, Hayworth was not worth a libertarian death.


281 posted on 11/15/2006 9:37:00 AM PST by Texas Chilli
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To: LeGrande

If you think taxes (which have gone down, btw) and government spending are the defining issues of the day you are a fool.

But the rest of your posts already suggest that's the case.


282 posted on 11/15/2006 9:38:10 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: Drango
I don't understand why losertarians hang here? They thump their chest, proclaim their lofty ideology is near the conservative goal, yet different...then they applaud when their ideology sucks votes frpm Republicans and elects liberal Democrats.

It's a very empty victory for the libertarians.

They may feel like they are perfectionists, or idealists, or non-compromisers, but I think they are masochists who revel in their misery.

They same is true for the "true conservatives" who would not vote for "RINOs", or the Immigration myopia crowd.

The democratic strategists threw all kinds of wedge issues at us and we split up like a cheap suit.

283 posted on 11/15/2006 9:39:41 AM PST by oldbrowser (The liberal media has effectively taken away our "Freedom of the Press".)
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To: Muleteam1
Ignorance is curable. The first step is admitting to yourself that you have a need to learn.

Not sure humans are ready for real anarchy/self governance. They ARE ready for a Constitutional Republic built on respect for individual Rights and Liberty. Maybe we should think about getting back at least that far some day. Don't you think?

284 posted on 11/15/2006 9:41:09 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Dead Corpse

In case my tagline escaped you, it essentially suggests that one should never argue with a fool. They can bring you down to their level and beat you with their experience.


285 posted on 11/15/2006 9:52:46 AM PST by Muleteam1 (Only a fool continues to argue with a skunk, a jackass, or a Libertarian.)
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To: Muleteam1
Only a fool continues to argue...

And yet, here you are. Back again...

BTW... my bet is for you to be the "jackass".

286 posted on 11/15/2006 9:57:39 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Purple GOPer

Bump.


287 posted on 11/15/2006 9:57:45 AM PST by roaddog727 (BullS##t does not get bridges built)
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To: Sam Hill; Mojo
Say Sam, weren't you and your buddy navigator big supporters of the RLC at one point in '98? -- Seems to me I remember you two making plans to attend a Caucus convention in Vegas that year. -- Did you go?

You're senile.

No, I definitely remember navigator and his buddy Mojo planning a Vegas Convention visit that year.

You're a liar.

Weird claim, as my memory, even if its a 'senile' mistake, can hardly be classed as a 'lie'.

I never met Navigator. And we never planned to ever meet any where at any time for any purpose.

Fine, I guess then you are not Mojo.. - Glad to hear that.

In fact, he is famous for no one ever having met him.

Didn't someone in your faction claim they had met him at his ranch in Santa Barbara -- and that he was in a wheelchair?

I have never had anything to do with the RLC.

Well then, - what is it with this hate for libertarians you now display? - Did a libertarian scare you at some point?
Is it because libertarians support & defend the Constitution?

-- you've always been a liar. And all you have ever done is attack people and post lies.
You are a bitter old man [says 'Mr. Bitter' libertarian baiter] - and it shows in every post.

Deja vu .. -- I've been hearing that "bitter old man" line since '98, when Mojo first used it.
-- If you're not Mojo, who were you?

288 posted on 11/15/2006 10:06:15 AM PST by tpaine
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To: Dead Corpse

High probability of federal employment, IMHO.


289 posted on 11/15/2006 10:10:44 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Tamzee
Talk about a "valuable lesson" :-)

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It's a lesson I totally relate to.

290 posted on 11/15/2006 10:18:54 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Sam Hill

Sam, forget it. It's like arguing with a post. When these guys breath they have to switch their thinking process from their hind brain to their gonads.


291 posted on 11/15/2006 10:24:31 AM PST by Muleteam1
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To: Sam Hill
Hey, aren't you the a$$hat who was bemoaning tracking terrorist banking activities? IT was too much paperwork?

If there is a suspect terrorist, track his banking activities. The unPA allows the fed to track all our banking activities. How bout we just keep it simple and track the banking activities of suspect terrorists? Successful task masters would call it focusing on the problem. Sorta like taking aside my 80 year old mother in law in her wheelchair at the airport (actual occurence) for a cavity search is not focusing on the problem. It's being politically correct. Meantime, a potential terrorist could simply breeze right through screening. Are you so dense that you can't figure this out on your own?

Wasn't that one of the reasons you listed for voting for the terrorist enabling Democrats -- or staying at home in Mom's basement and playing Dungeons and Dragons instead?

More lies and deceptions from the Sam Hill camp. Exactly what is your motive for posting such a lie? I would expect such from the Clinton camp, but not from someone here.

Like I said. It's demoralizing to see such "intellect" on parade.

Some folks simply can't handle the truth. You can be demoralized all you want, but the truth eventually prevails over lies and deceptions. It is now apparent to me that posting lies and deceptions is your MO. I am still working on your motive. Maybe you are a muslim? Maybe you are a politician? Maybe you are a plant from DU? Obviously you have one thing in common with the lot of them, nearly all will attempt to shuck and jive when confronted with the truth.

292 posted on 11/15/2006 10:27:04 AM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: Sam Hill
If you think taxes (which have gone down, btw) and government spending are the defining issues of the day you are a fool.

The defining issues of today are the same as they were when this country was founded, even the War on Terror. The only difference today is the names of the terrorists.

Europe is probably doomed, and the reason is because of taxes and the socialism that goes hand and hand with it. Their productive members are fleeing and they are being replaced with ignorant Muslims. Not every battle is fought with guns and bullets, some are fought with ideals and principles.

Bush tried and failed with a congress that was completely Republican controlled to reform the Social Security System. It wasn't even an issue in this last election, that is how utterly it was defeated, by Republicans no less. Everyone can clearly see that the system will collapse in 20 years or so unless something is done now.

You on the other hand are more interested in bashing Libertarians than you are in promoting any constructive solutions now, when it is easy.

One more point, the next big war is an economic war with Asia (China and its surrounding area and India). This is a war that will be fought and won or lost without a bullet being fired. The losers will pay a terrible price. The current war on terror will just be a foot note in the victors history book.

293 posted on 11/15/2006 10:31:02 AM PST by LeGrande
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To: takenoprisoner

I find that career federal bureaucrats seem to be statistically way over-represented among the virulent anti-libertarians.


294 posted on 11/15/2006 10:31:39 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Libertarians don't elect Democrats. Democrat voters do.

Who cares if Libertarians "would have" voted Republican if they had had no other choice? They didn't elect Democrats, nor did they steal votes from the Republicans. You can't "steal" your own vote; nobody "owns" it.

Blame liberal voters, not principled libertarians, when Republicans fail to garner freedom-loving people to support them.
295 posted on 11/15/2006 10:36:37 AM PST by TeenagedConservative
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To: Muleteam1

You're right of course.

What's funny is that the only time one sees these creeps even posting around here is when they are chortling over how they managed to show their awesome power by handing the Democrats another win.

You'll notice that no one took on the challenge to show one way in which their viewpoint diverges from that of their master, George Soros.

So how are they different from the DNC today?

Anyway, I'm leaving the thread. Like every LP thread, it's like trying to talk to a room full of Rumpelstiltskins.

You remember the gold-crazed irrational dwarf who never did anything except get so mad and stomp so hard he fell through the floor.

Rumpelstiltskin should be the mascot of the l/Libertarian (non) party.


296 posted on 11/15/2006 10:37:32 AM PST by Sam Hill
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To: TeenagedConservative
Exactly right. The libertarian vote should be earned, not assumed.
297 posted on 11/15/2006 10:42:19 AM PST by Wormwood (Partition Iraq NOW!)
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To: Sam Hill
During this thread I've been asked why I am so anti-Libertarian. For my grandchildren's sake, there's just something about anarchy and immorality that does not appeal to me. Libertarians are simply frustrated Democrats seeking to pound drums that only a few young and naive Americans hear.

I certainly recall the Rumpelstiltskin fairy tale although I must admit I don't recall ever actually reading it. Good analogy though. I too will leave this thread about whether or not dwarfs are significant in America's political system.

298 posted on 11/15/2006 10:54:53 AM PST by Muleteam1
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To: Sam Hill

A Lebanese resident of a Beirut suburb counts US dollar bills that he received from Hizbullah as a compensation for losing his house in Lebanon on Friday. Photo: AP

The US Treasury Dept acknowledges that hizbollah terrorists counterfeit the yankee dollar.

Why are you attempting to deceive everyone?

299 posted on 11/15/2006 11:03:29 AM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: Mojo; Sam Hill; Dead Corpse; tacticalogic
Sam Hill:

I've been reading and posting here since 1996,, before there even was registration.

In fact, my first ID was banned because I defended GHW Bush from the charge that he was at the top of the pyramid of the CIA's drug dealing -- and other similarly proposterous accusations.
When I was banned by the owner, I was told this site wanted nothing to do with my "blood-sucking party."
I'm not even a registered Republican, I don't think. (My state is complicated.)

Say Sam, -- what's with this hate for libertarians you now display? - Did they reject you back in '98?
tpaine

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DC:
Must have gotten turned down by all those "loose moral" LP girls...

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tacticalogic wrote:
High probability of federal employment, IMHO.

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If memory serves, our boy had no real employment in those early days at FR, as he was in the process of writing a book.

300 posted on 11/15/2006 11:03:40 AM PST by tpaine
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