The Libertarian Effect

Real Clear Politics ^ | 11/13/06 | ROSS KAMINSKY

[Sam Hill]

"Yes the Republicans lost the Congress by a very narrow margin, but the truth is that they never really had it. The Rino's actually dictated what could and couldn't be done. Now the moderate Democrats (many of whom are more conservative than the Rinos) get to control the Democratic party."

What planet are you on?

Have you seen who will control Congress -- who will chair what committees?

It is like talking to brain damaged children to try to have a discussion with libertarians.

There's probably a reason for that. Why do you think they call it dope?

Does Soros pay good benefits?

[Sam Hill]

"Right now the main battle ground is taxes and government spending. All of the other problems pale in comparison."

How right you are.

[Dead Corpse]

Actually, there are entire position papers laying out how "privately" owned freeways and transportation systems would be much more efficient than the current monopoly.

Google is your friend.

[Sloth]

So, do you support a UN-enforced international ban on abortion, or do you respect national sovereignty?

[Dead Corpse]

Libertarians are not doing anything but putting socialists in power.

And if we vote for your Left-leaning candidates, like McCain, Guliani, et al... how does that change this equation?

[GOP_1900AD]

I am in favor of everything you listed.

[t_skoz]

God bless you Roch_vet. I've been away from ROC for over a year now. I love New Hampshire, but I do miss Rochester. I will be home for Thanksgiving and am looking forward to seeing friends and family. Take care!

[billbears]

LOL, Sammy. I do so love our 'discussions'. Well I call them discussions but it's mostly me correcting you and then you calling names. But I've come to expect such from your sort. You asked a question, I provided not only a Supreme Court Justice's opinion (matter of fact the man who wrote the dissent in Roe v. Wade), but also the directions where

A) the correct view is found in the Constitution and
B) a general location for the Framers' view confirming said argument(I will get you to read the Federalist Papers one day...perhaps it's today?)

And for my brief interjection into the discussion I get name calling. I realize logical arguments do sail over your head, and actual Constitutional discussions are a bit out of your purview, but surely Sam you could provide just a few, however brief, words from the Framers supporting your supposition that this power was ever intended to lay in Washington? No Coulterisms, no Rushdie wisdom, just a few simple writings from the Framers of the United States Constitution that states the majority of issues internal to a state or its citizens were to be determined by the national government

Please note, and I realize this will pain you, that even if a Constitutional Amendment were to be passed on abortion, quality of life discussions, the number of green M&Ms in a bag, etc (and this is assuming someone would be dumb enough to do it) that the final say would come down to the state legislatures, again confirming that this issue has been and always will be resolved by the separate and sovereign states.

As you have yet, or ever, been able to actually counter my points I want you to squint real hard, turn that brainpower on, and come up with a good name this time will you? I'm pulling for you. Really I am...

[tpaine]

I've been reading and posting here since 1996,

Say Sam, weren't you and your buddy navigator big supporters of the RLC at one point in '98? -- Seems to me I remember you two making plans to attend a Caucus convention in Vegas that year. -- Did you go?

What's with this hate for libertarians you now display? - Did they reject you back in '98?

[Dead Corpse]

Well, your choice of candidates aren't. Not sure if you noticed that or not.

[Dead Corpse]

Must have gotten turned down by all those "loose moral" LP girls...

[Sam Hill]

"Say Sam, weren't you and your buddy navigator big supporters of the RLC at one point in '98? -- Seems to me I remember you two making plans to attend a Caucus convention in Vegas that year. -- Did you go?

What's with this hate for libertarians you now display? - Did they reject you back in '98?"

You're senile. I have never had anything to do with the RLC.

[Preachin']

"I don't blame libertarians for voting for their party. If you want them to vote GOP get the GOP to spend less, it seems pretty simple to me."

And if the Libertarians want me to vote for them... then don't be social liberals and don't thumb the nose at abortion.

It's lame to imply that all the libertarians look at are the fiscal issues. Whatever.

[Muleteam1]

Sorry but I don't care enough about the institution of anarchy to Google how to do it. Also sorry but I must end this conversation.

[tpaine]

Say Sam, weren't you and your buddy navigator big supporters of the RLC at one point in '98? -- Seems to me I remember you two making plans to attend a Caucus convention in Vegas that year. -- Did you go?

You're senile.

No, I definitely remember navigator and his buddy Mojo planning a Vegas Convention visit that year.

I have never had anything to do with the RLC.

Well then, - what is it with this hate for libertarians you now display? - Did a libertarian scare you at some point?
Is it because libertarians support & defend the Constitution?

[rochester_veteran]

God bless you Roch_vet..

God bless you too, t_skoz! New Hampshire is a beautiful place. I was gone from Rachacha for almost 10 years as well. Although I love it here, there's alot of issues brewing. Check out the discussion forums on the D&C website for an insight of what's happening:

Democrat and Chronicle Local News Forum

After reviewing the different issues, such as the Fast Ferry sale being delayed, Midtown Plaza, Mayor Duffy vs. Ron Evangelista, etc... you'll be armed for discussion when you get home next week!

[LeGrande]

The Contitution applies to non-citizens who are captured making war against the US?

Yeah, you know your stuff all right.

Apparently you don't follow the Supreme Court rulings at all do you?

"It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon

You are nothing but wreckers and well-poisoners. The suicide bombers of American politics.

Then why on earth would you want us to vote Republican?

And just because you want to smoke dope.

It is all about personal responsibility. I am responsible for my life and actions. The only drugs I take are vitamins and occasionally some caffeine. You obviously drink alcohol (I can tell by your postings), but that is your right. At least for a little while longer.

[LeGrande]

What planet are you on?

Have you seen who will control Congress -- who will chair what committees?

It is like talking to brain damaged children to try to have a discussion with libertarians.

There's probably a reason for that. Why do you think they call it dope?

Does Soros pay good benefits?

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Do you have any arguments left that are better than personal attacks? LOL

What you fail to understand is that we are not your enemy. Why do you hate us?

[LeGrande]

So apparently you think that the war on terror is more important than our fight for freedom?

I think someone said something once about exchanging Freedom for Security and getting what they deserve.

I feel sorry for you. I really do.

[Sam Hill]

"No, I definitely remember navigator and his buddy Mojo planning a Vegas Convention visit that year."

You're a liar. I never met Navigator. And we never planned to ever meet any where at any time for any purpose. In fact, he is famous for no one ever having met him.

But you've always been a liar. And all you have ever done is attack people and post lies.

You are a bitter old man and it shows in every post.