Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 12 November 2006

Various big media television networks ^ | 12 November 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Candor7]

Get Real, The RINOs took control of the Republican Party, when in fact we voters sent men who promised to institute a conservative agenda. The President Balked, and the RINOs balked, and let he Dems traduce their agenda.

Therefore the Republican party has lost its mandate.

I will no longer hold my nose and vote a stright Republican ticket again like I did last Tuesday.

The RNC must respond to its own electorate or it will not grace the halls of power again for a generation.

[A.Hun]

With Senate rules and people like McCain and Graham we weren't a "majority party." We barely held a plurality.

For whatever reason, that is the honest truth. Post of the day as far as I'm concerned.

[rodguy911]

Great expose, just more hippies from the 60's that need work.

[rodguy911]

True sleuth we need to speak out much more vocally this time around.

[CDB]

Will you join me?

Of course, AB! Count me in. Always.

[Alas Babylon!]

Russert now again bringing up that 60% of people do not support war...

See, here is one example we can sink our teeth into. According to Russert, do 60% of the people want an immediate pullout? Of course not! But Russert doesn't define what he means by stating this, so the implication is for immediate ceasefire and withdraw. Words have meaning. What does Russert mean with this statistic?

Not what the poll measures, I'd wager. I suspect it measures a number of opposite views. It might be measuring some dissatisfaction that we haven't completely won yet, like the home town teams fans who get more nervous in overtime. It might mean that, yes, some want an immediate withdraw of the US military. It might mean some want us to bring on the B-52s and start carpet bombing. Or all of the above.

So we need to check this poll he cites and see what the heck it's trying to measure. If it's as above, as I think it is, I'll be sending Mr. Russert a note.

[samantha]

#202, I am not sure many freepers are aware of a promise made by The Democrats soon to be in leadership from Michigan. They have stated that they will try and make all the alternative medicine supplements illegal,thereby putting people like me in danger from the horrible side effects of Prescription Drugs. I heard this just a few weeks ago from Barry from Barry's Supplements in Boca Raton in Lower Palm Beach County. He was on the Steve Kane Radio show and was almost having apoplexy at the prospect. He is excellent at what he does, and his Son is an Orthopedist who unlike most Physicians is not tied to the Drug Companies with little rewards and bonuses to promote their Products. Barry gave me excellent advise,inexpensive also, a few years back when I choked hard and almost blew out my Retina. The advise and supplement he recommended cleared up the eye mess in three days, and the Opthamologist was shocked to say the least. We have to find out the particulars and get cracking fast to prevent this from happening.

[rodguy911]

We have a tough two years no matter what, if the President tries to go for massive immigration reform before the entire border is adequately fenced the country will not be well served IMHO.

[PerConPat]

Hey, I don't have the answers, seriously I don't. Let's just say that I'm beginning to think that the concept of a prolonged but "nice" war just does not work for this country.

Nobody has the answers. IMHO, Bush43 and Rumsfeld knew that the US would never support a full court press, even after 911's horror. And the public's disdain for military action, incubated for decades in the post Vietnam era, has persuaded our leaders to adopt the fantasy that we can prevail against massed fanatics by solely resorting to military "transformation" etc..

This delusion was so complete by 2001, that when the Pentagon's own war gaming pointed to the difficulties and likely undesirable outcomes of its preferred tactics for the Middle East, it meant little to the planners- who had largely been responsible for a previously limited, and therefore quickly successful, sortie into the Kuwait/Iraq mess in '91.

Attitudes in the military are frequently no different than those generally present in the public from which they are drawn. Most usually go along to get along. The emergence of a Mitchell, a Patton, a LeMay, a Rickover etc. is as rare as hen's teeth--just as is the emergence of a Teddy Roosevelt or a Ronald Reagan. The public just can't abide the sacrifices and diligence required-- not until things begin to look bleak that is.

And things will eventually look bleak enough to rouse the country. Of course, the question is will this awakening come in time? Who knows? As for me, I'm through putting effort into being mad as hell at Mikey Moore, Colmes etc. and the rest of the village idiots in the media who are unaware, or perhaps very aware, of what is coming. I'm going to concentrate my efforts, at every opportunity, to belittle- cajole- and challenge the cretins, less than half of which care to vote, who reside in my own locality.

I've skimmed through the thread prior to my post. Thanks everyone for the great comments.

[rodguy911]

They can't, the rules keep changing.

[johnny7]

We have a tough two years no matter what, if the President tries to go for massive immigration reform before the entire border is adequately fenced the country will not be well served IMHO.

It could destroy the Republican party.

[rodguy911]

I like him too. You can tell some of the Dems are already stone drunk on power and they haven't even been sworn in yet!!

[rodguy911]

I haven't either. I don't think either one of us missed anything at all.

[Arizona Carolyn]

We have the educational system the Clintons and far left envisioned clear back in the Arkansas days. They knew in order to really gain power they had to dumb down future voters.

What we have today is a lot of voters who know more about Britney Spears than they do Nancy Pelosi.

I saw Sean do a man-on-the-street in his special the week before the election and one woman didn't recognize the pictures of any of the political leaders, but did recognize the movie star pictures. Turned out, she was a teacher.

[holden]

they can't get the scoop on their own BEFORE the Dimmies do.!!

Oh, you mean like things along the line of Mehlman being Rove's protege'!   Agreed!

HF

[Candor7]

I understand the sentiment, but I think it was an extremely foolish thing to do>>>>>>>>>>>>

I do not think it foolish. The Republican Party has lost its mandate through failing to fulfill the promises it made to ots electorate in 2004. Its a message that the RNC would do well to heed or they will be watching Hillery Clinton being inaugurated in the early months of 2009. And they have only a month or so to get on the stick.

The RINOs conspired with Democrats to get rid of Tom Delay so that they would have an unhindered run at the presidency. There is not one viable Republican candidate who could be president who supports the conservative agenda.Its no accident. The RNC better find one fast, and as far as I am concerned, Tom DeLay sounds fine to me.

If the RNC does not move in this way, the Republican party will not grace the halls of electoral power for another generation.

And we will have a war with an nuclear powered Islamofascist Axis of Nations after the Dems policy of appeasement fails in the face of the Islamofascist movement to establish a World Caliphate.

[Candor7]

he did not just take over the Lousiana National Guard.

Collins refused to place the LNG under the Presidents conmtrol, because he was a Pubbie, she a Dem, and her people drowning in the streets.

Why didn't anyone TELL the truth????

[Txsleuth]

Harry Reid also used to be virulently against illegal immigration...

Until he changed this year..

[Peach]

I can relate to that and feel much the same way, OldFriend.

[Morgan in Denver]

Wow, sorry to hear that about you. I hope you are okay now ant won't have that happen to you again.

One thing everyone needs to do this week is to write down all the promises we can think of for each elected Democrat so we can compare results to promises. A lot of blue-dog Democrats were elected and now they will have to be monitored as to keeping their promises. I also plan on making notes on any that are not kept.

Of course, I have Diana DeGette. She's one of the most liberal reps in DC. But she keeps a low profile in Denver. I rarely hear anything about her these days. She just runs and gets reelected. The GOP didn't even have a candidate last week to run against her.