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To: Interesting Times
The paper has now removed the Clarence Lee story from its web site.

A newsgroup poster reports receiving this reply to his email:

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The tip for this man's story came from a highly credible woman in the community and, if his story is not true, we feel duped. In almost 30 years of doing this job, I've never had a veteran tell us a false story.

The reporter has been doing this for more than 40 years and has never had a vet lie. So we had no reason to believe this was false. We are doing a followup story.

Sincerely,
Terry Greenberg
Editor
The Avalanche-Journal

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The truth, of course, is that the paper makes no effort to validate anybody's service, and therefore have absolutely no idea whether they've been lied to before or not...

90 posted on 11/14/2006 8:16:45 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times

good work ... please let us all know if/when they publish a follow-up article


91 posted on 11/14/2006 8:28:24 AM PST by fnord (dachshunds with erections can't climb stairs)
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To: Howlin; eddie willers; cajungirl; wirestripper; Southflanknorthpawsis; Peach; prairiebreeze; ...
Here's a classic "feel good" Veterans Day story where the reporter made no effort to validate the claims of the guy he was profiling, and got taken for a big ride.

It's interesting that the guy didn't "confess" to committing war crimes. Perhaps that is becoming a less popular form of self-expression for guys lying about their Vietnam service. At least, one can hope...

I'll link the paper's followup article to this thread when it arrives. Expect lots of posturing and efforts to exonerate the reporter for failing to do his job.

92 posted on 11/14/2006 8:31:31 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times; Brucifer

Ping to post #90.


102 posted on 11/14/2006 9:02:59 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Interesting Times; jazusamo; Jed Eckert; gunnysnell; jordan8; ErnBatavia; corlorde; PAR35; ...

Received an e-mail from the A-J editor, Mr. Greenberg.

They're "95% certain Mr. Lee was not telling the truth" and are doing a follow-up.


103 posted on 11/14/2006 9:17:13 AM PST by WestTexasWend (NO OIL FOR APPEASERS)
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To: Interesting Times
Terry Greenberg says: In almost 30 years of doing this job, I've never had a veteran tell us a false story.

Boy howdy. In almost thirty years of doing this job I've scarcely heard a true story. In Rogers's Rangers Standing Orders (from the 18th Century!): "You can lie all you want when you tell other people about the Rangers, but don't never lie to a Ranger or an officer."

And yes, even we get snookered. We had a guy in 10th Special Forces Group, Brian Sirois, who was SF Qualified, but had to add bogus awards to his uniform. His career vector went retrograde, you might say, when he was caught. (After being thrown out, he went on to murder his wife and is in prison in Massachusetts. Character is pretty fixed in adults, and many wannabees and blowfishes display their poor character in various criminal acts). There was also a company commander in one of the Ranger Batts who had never actually bothered to, like, go to Ranger or even airborne school. No word on his fate after HE was thrown out.

I don't blame the reporters so much on this. They don't have our (meaning, vets') knowledge of what is normal and sensible, so stories that align with their TV-induced prejudices won't ring the alarm bells that some of us have.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

113 posted on 11/14/2006 2:38:47 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F (Build more lampposts... we've got plenty of traitors.)
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the update. Good work!


137 posted on 11/15/2006 9:53:35 AM PST by Ciexyz (Satisfied owner of a 2007 Toyota Corolla.)
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