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Vietnam veteran full of life despite nine months of torture (See update in #90)
Lubbock Avalanche-Journal ^ | Saturday, November 11, 2006 | Ray Westbrook

Posted on 11/11/2006 7:25:38 AM PST by WestTexasWend

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To: Howlin
Please ping me to any followups. This is infuriating, but I love it when you guys bust them!

Will do.

We owe a large debt of gratitude to B.G. Burkett, whose pioneering work in his book "Stolen Honor" first revealed the amazing extent of the fake veteran problem, and how the media was using it to further its own anti-military agenda.

101 posted on 11/14/2006 8:55:13 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Interesting Times; Brucifer

Ping to post #90.


102 posted on 11/14/2006 9:02:59 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Interesting Times; jazusamo; Jed Eckert; gunnysnell; jordan8; ErnBatavia; corlorde; PAR35; ...

Received an e-mail from the A-J editor, Mr. Greenberg.

They're "95% certain Mr. Lee was not telling the truth" and are doing a follow-up.


103 posted on 11/14/2006 9:17:13 AM PST by WestTexasWend (NO OIL FOR APPEASERS)
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To: Interesting Times
Thanks for this! I own and have read Burketett's STOLEN VALOR......full to the brim of information of this type.

Ping me w/any follow-up. (Another failure of the MSM uncovered by Freepers!)

104 posted on 11/14/2006 9:22:41 AM PST by Carolinamom ("I don't have time to be fingerpointing." ---President George W. Bush)
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To: WestTexasWend
They're "95% certain Mr. Lee was not telling the truth" and are doing a follow-up.

Can't put anything past those guys...

105 posted on 11/14/2006 9:22:50 AM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: WestTexasWend

Thanks for your followup and the heads up.


106 posted on 11/14/2006 9:27:37 AM PST by jazusamo (Murtha still owes the Haditha Marines an apology--See DogMurtha.com.)
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To: Interesting Times

Well, some good came out of the story before I read it all and the updates..My screne got so blurry that I went out and cleaned the garage before continuing! LOL

I thank each of the contributors who exposed this phony.


107 posted on 11/14/2006 11:24:46 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES.)
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To: Just A Nobody

Clarence Lee is a liar and poseur. Having participated in the exposure of hundreds of phony SEALs, I could tell he was lying just by the story he told.

It's a shame, because he is hurting his wife and all the people who believe him.


108 posted on 11/14/2006 12:46:48 PM PST by Larrywb (Boot Murtha!)
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the ping. What a pathetic loser this guy is, sheesh!


109 posted on 11/14/2006 1:24:09 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: WestTexasWend

Good..I hate that there are poseurs who steal valor!

Please ping me to updates.


110 posted on 11/14/2006 1:25:27 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES.)
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To: Interesting Times; RaceBannon

the Marines over at www.TogetherWeServed.com were on it immediately. I think they raised the red flag first :)

Regardless, POSERS should beware - they will be caught!!!

Semper Fi!


111 posted on 11/14/2006 1:27:33 PM PST by MudPuppy (St Michael Protect Us!)
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To: MudPuppy

Thanks for reminding me- my membership lapsed over there. I have to renew it.


112 posted on 11/14/2006 2:38:43 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Interesting Times
Terry Greenberg says: In almost 30 years of doing this job, I've never had a veteran tell us a false story.

Boy howdy. In almost thirty years of doing this job I've scarcely heard a true story. In Rogers's Rangers Standing Orders (from the 18th Century!): "You can lie all you want when you tell other people about the Rangers, but don't never lie to a Ranger or an officer."

And yes, even we get snookered. We had a guy in 10th Special Forces Group, Brian Sirois, who was SF Qualified, but had to add bogus awards to his uniform. His career vector went retrograde, you might say, when he was caught. (After being thrown out, he went on to murder his wife and is in prison in Massachusetts. Character is pretty fixed in adults, and many wannabees and blowfishes display their poor character in various criminal acts). There was also a company commander in one of the Ranger Batts who had never actually bothered to, like, go to Ranger or even airborne school. No word on his fate after HE was thrown out.

I don't blame the reporters so much on this. They don't have our (meaning, vets') knowledge of what is normal and sensible, so stories that align with their TV-induced prejudices won't ring the alarm bells that some of us have.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

113 posted on 11/14/2006 2:38:47 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F (Build more lampposts... we've got plenty of traitors.)
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To: Riley

yes - time to re-enlist. The gang at TWS caught this about 3 days ago...when it was first published.

ooh-rah! Posers beware.


114 posted on 11/14/2006 2:48:34 PM PST by MudPuppy (St Michael Protect Us!)
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To: Interesting Times
Here's a classic "feel good" Veterans Day story where the reporter made no effort to validate the claims of the guy he was profiling, and got taken for a big ride.

Just a bit too Hollywood. Rambo couldn’t have had a more unbelievable script.

115 posted on 11/14/2006 3:02:36 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Larrywb
Thanks Larry. Pathetic that there are folks out there that think it is okay to lie about something this serious.

Keep up the good work! ;*)

116 posted on 11/14/2006 3:05:26 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: MudPuppy

That would be me posting the poser alert there.


117 posted on 11/14/2006 3:20:50 PM PST by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese, that why I don't sing.)
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To: MudPuppy

where was it at TWS?

I saw it here first


118 posted on 11/14/2006 3:23:46 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: RaceBannon

posted as POSER ALERT by USMCOBRA.

I just bumped it over there - it's in the OPEN Discussion


119 posted on 11/14/2006 3:41:59 PM PST by MudPuppy (St Michael Protect Us!)
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To: E9RET

Yep, Schlatter is good on POW stuff, Chief, even if he's a flake on politics.

I worked for a Medal recipient who was a returned POW (actually, a posthumous Medal recipient! Who is still alive and well as I write this). He had severe health problems that resulted from wounds in his capture incident (his teammates saw him fall and he was carried as KIA-BNR until he was discovered alive in the prison system).

He used to bring in little shards of shrapnel that were still working their way out of him, over 10 years later. And he said that, "After the way they treated me, I don't believe there are any live POWs. If there were any in '73, they didn't live more than a couple more years."

I figured he knew, ya know?

The Carter Administration set up a hosing for those guys (on top of their amnesty for draft dodgers, deserters, and court-martial convicts). When you came back as a POW, Nixon ordered that physical requirements be waived and a job found for anybody that wanted to resume service. Many of the returnees left immediately (all of them could have had a disability retirement), but many others stayed in for their 20 or more.

But Carter's DOD ordered that, when these guys retire, they get no disability... after all, they were able to serve in the (Army/Navy/AF/Marines) no problem!

That nonsense was finally overturned in the Reagan Administration.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F


120 posted on 11/14/2006 5:15:04 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F (Build more lampposts... we've got plenty of traitors.)
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