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The End of Oil? Breakthrough Turns Coal Into Clean Diesel
National Geographic ^ | 4/18/2006 | Sean Markey

Posted on 11/10/2006 9:54:57 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: HEY4QDEMS

>>>>You can take my spark plugs when you pry them from my cold dead 66 Chevelle.<<<<

Fear not, if this technology takes off, it will surely drive gas prices lower and your Chevelle will be cheaper to drive.
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See, there is a spot light. Or I could switch to fuel injected alcohol.


21 posted on 11/10/2006 10:12:36 AM PST by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: djf

They may be in chains instead of rings. In that case they would be greasy and tarry substances, no?.........


22 posted on 11/10/2006 10:14:16 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: MadeInAmerica
...Or I could switch to fuel injected alcohol.

Yes, or nitrous oxide...........

23 posted on 11/10/2006 10:15:20 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: Red Badger

worthy ping


24 posted on 11/10/2006 10:16:44 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Duke Phelan
The only way to get coal is to mine it, and that would mean hurting mother earth to these moon-bats.

Didn't Clinton make our largest clean coal reserves -- well, the area where they are, Utah, I think -- into a national park?

25 posted on 11/10/2006 10:18:20 AM PST by maryz
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To: Red Badger
...Or I could switch to fuel injected alcohol. Yes, or nitrous oxide........... ____________________________________________________ Already there. 2 each 200 shots. Here is one of the blue tanks in the back. Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
26 posted on 11/10/2006 10:19:30 AM PST by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: Red Badger

Methane, ethane, propane, butane, pentane...

All chains. The thing is as a mixed up bunch of molecules they may not burn entirely cleanly and tend to tar up the systems.
But each one of them, in a highly refined status, and in the right engine at the right temp/pressure/mix will burn really clean.

Not quite as much power as regular gas, though, because theres not as many carbon-carbon bonds.


27 posted on 11/10/2006 10:21:59 AM PST by djf (Islam!! There's a flag on the moon! Guess whose? Hint: Not yours!)
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To: tomzz

Jetta TDI Rated at 42 MPG HWY 35 City (We have averaged 49 HWY 39 City with ours) the car is roomy and safe.


28 posted on 11/10/2006 10:26:52 AM PST by BubbaBobTX (I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.)
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To: SmoothTalker
"Of course you also get much better mileage and longevity out of a diesel. The torque is nice too."

The stink isn't.

29 posted on 11/10/2006 10:29:36 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: maryz
Yup, a huge reserve of low-sulfur coal here in Utah and the bent one puts it out of bounds because of an India Lobby group that claimed it would reduce the $ amount they would get from their coal exports.
30 posted on 11/10/2006 10:32:37 AM PST by Duke Phelan (Practice makes perfect, but nobody is perfect, so why practice?)
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To: MadeInAmerica

Nice!.............


31 posted on 11/10/2006 10:33:02 AM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Modern ones like the ones you can find in Europe don't have the stink and are very close to gas cars in terms of smoothness. BMW makes some that can get 0-60 in 6 seconds, go 140+ and still return more than 37 mpg!


32 posted on 11/10/2006 10:33:31 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: Red Badger

Thanks for the post. I've been saying this for years on FR. Been mentioning China's use of this (since they don't have to worry about the "earh mother" types stopping there development of it.


33 posted on 11/10/2006 10:34:50 AM PST by techcor
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To: Red Badger
Let's mine some coal!

I'm sure the enviros won't mind.

34 posted on 11/10/2006 10:38:42 AM PST by Disambiguator (;^))
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To: Red Badger

If true, and the method is cheap, goodbye oil sheiks! goodbye money going to terrorist-sponsoring states!


35 posted on 11/10/2006 10:40:18 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Nathan Zachary
The stink isn't.

There is almost no stink in modern Diesels. My 2005 Diesel Jeep doesn't stink half as bad as my 2000 Yukon XL 2500 and Diesel exhaust fumes don't burn your eyes like gasoline exhaust fumes do.

The only stink associated with owning a Diesel today is the greasy fuel pump (spilled gas evaporates away quickly, Diesel doesn't). You learn pretty quick that this is what the paper towels are for.

36 posted on 11/10/2006 10:41:42 AM PST by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: Nathan Zachary
We used to add Vanilla oil to the Diesel when offshore fishing, the exhaust smelled like Angel food Cake and there were fewer people getting seasick.

TT
37 posted on 11/10/2006 10:44:37 AM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Disambiguator

It's, It's...**Sniff**....Beautiful!

38 posted on 11/10/2006 10:44:59 AM PST by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: tomzz

It has more energy than gasoline, diesel is still cheeper per mile driven.

Ethanol has less energy than gasoline, even if it is cheaper per gallon, it may be more expensive per mile driven.

It's like dishsoap, the cheapest brand may not be the best value.


39 posted on 11/10/2006 10:47:24 AM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: tomzz

It has more energy than gasoline, diesel is still cheeper per mile driven.

Ethanol has less energy than gasoline, even if it is cheaper per gallon, it may be more expensive per mile driven.

It's like dishsoap, the cheapest brand may not be the best value.


40 posted on 11/10/2006 10:47:24 AM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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