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To: tonycavanagh
You made a statement. Where's your proof other than MSM press clippings?

Whatever you read in the Times doesn't impress me.

22 posted on 11/09/2006 3:15:20 AM PST by Proud_texan
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To: Proud_texan

You know Rumsfeld didn't implement Phase Z either.

That's the plan where we all run around like chickens with our heads cut of screaming "we're all going to die" until we did.


24 posted on 11/09/2006 3:19:21 AM PST by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese, that why I don't sing.)
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To: Proud_texan
I asked you a question, you challenged me did we or did we not have a phase 4 plan for Iraq, the fact that yoiu challenged me must prove that you know something about this so prove it.

Military Times the Army Times, Navy Times, Air Force Times, and Marine Corps Times, November 4, 2006,:

It is one thing for the majority of Americans to think Rumsfeld has failed. But when the nation’s current military leaders start to break publicly with their defense secretary, then it is clear that he is losing control of the institution he ostensibly leads.... Rumsfeld has lost credibility with the uniformed leadership, with the troops, with Congress and with the public at large. His strategy has failed, and his ability to lead is compromised. And although the blame for our failures in Iraq rests with the secretary, it will be the troops who bear its brunt.

Army Brig. Gen. Mark Scheid, an early planner of the war

Months before the United States invaded Iraq in 2003, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld forbade military strategists from developing plans for securing a post-war Iraq, the retiring commander of the Army Transportation Corps said Thursday.

In fact, said Brig. Gen. Mark Scheid, Rumsfeld said “he would fire the next person” who talked about the need for a post-war plan.

As part of G2 I was surprised that there was going to be no phase 4 plan, which is why I went on FreeReepublic to talk about it

25 posted on 11/09/2006 3:26:09 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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