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To: Aussie Dasher
He also said it was conservatism that won fairly big when it was tried yesterday,

I don't know about this. A lot of "true conservatives" got clobbered yesterday, candidates who were not shy about espousing their conservatism and offering it as a choice between them and their opponents. They went down to defeat.

We ran a "true conservative" for governor in Ohio and he got slaughtered by close to 20 points. Ohio sent a "true liberal", Sherrod Brown, to the Senate in place of a conservative-moderate Mike DeWine. Brown offered nothing other than "hate Bush" and "retreat from Iraq". Those two things won it for him.

A lot of other "true conservatives" got creamed as well. Santorum in PA for one. Others lost, not by much, but still lost. Northrup in KY, Talent in MO, Burns in MT, Allen in VA, Hayworth in AZ (I know these last three are still in dispute, but I don't have much hope). I don't know that Rush is right on this one. A lot of "true conservatives" ran as conservatives, and were rejected. My guess is that the overhang of an unpopular war, which is always a huge liability for the incumbent party, did them in.

12 posted on 11/08/2006 4:58:28 PM PST by chimera
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To: chimera

Santorum lost because he's in a liberal state. Allen lost because he ran a terrible campaign. Other Republicans lost because they went up against conservative Democrats in swing districts.

2nd midterm elections are historically bad for the President's party. I don't think the election was a rejection of conservatism.


29 posted on 11/08/2006 5:05:43 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: chimera
I think what Rush was saying that the conservatives did not get real suppport from the top down. When you support the likes of Spector over Toomey, for example, it starts a trend. Rather than educating and communicating the positive side of conservatism, and getting people excited about your ideals, then the message is lost. Plus, actions speak louder than words, and neither the Senate nor the House did anything to advance smaller government or cut spending.

They blew it.

36 posted on 11/08/2006 5:07:51 PM PST by gramho12 (God help our country)
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To: chimera

Look at it another way....see it it as a whole...don't look at individual candidates.


48 posted on 11/08/2006 5:14:51 PM PST by chasio649
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To: chimera

Anyone out there know just what happened to Mark Sanford in North Carolina?
He got slammed along with everyone else.


89 posted on 11/08/2006 5:34:17 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: chimera

I disagree,ohio was lost because of corruption period.Backlash was coming.Massive numbers of people are moving south as well.Lackluster performance all the way around. Now lets watch how the dems really screw it up. will be fun to watch in a sick sort of way.


146 posted on 11/08/2006 6:30:42 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: chimera

I disagree,ohio was lost because of corruption period.Backlash was coming.Massive numbers of people are moving south as well.Lackluster performance all the way around. Now lets watch how the dems really screw it up. will be fun to watch in a sick sort of way.


147 posted on 11/08/2006 6:30:46 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: chimera
I think a lot of conservatives also sat this election out and stayed home in disgust at the GOP that is another partial factor. We need to re-bind ourselves get the party back on track and they will be glad to come back.

I also take particular issues with some of the emotional brats on this forum that flame these disgruntled people. That dog don't hunt at all for all that does is perpetuate the problem but gives them a moment of emotional gratification at the cost to our success. We can get the conservative machinery together where the base is re-energized and it will help for future success. Thanks..DN

245 posted on 11/08/2006 8:12:01 PM PST by democrats_nightmare
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