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Next shoe to fall in Bush WH: John Bolton as US-UN ambassador?
Drudge Report ^ | November 8, 2006

Posted on 11/08/2006 11:31:37 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

Next shoe to fall in Bush WH: John Bolton as US-UN ambassador?... Developing...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bolton; bush
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To: Rokke
But our greatest weak point is the very fickle and weak American public. We are truly a Burger King population

...and don't forget "stupid". A great line from Men In Black..
"the person is smart..
the people are stupid".

That having been said, there's a gigantic stink about this whole affair. It doesn't make sense and it isn't logical, at least not to me.

I would really like to know the facts about which groups voted in which directions. I'm still not buying the "stay at home" scenario until I see the facts.

Not to worry though, we'll get over this hiccup. George W. Bush is a true leader and even he may feel let down and disappointed but I predict he's been misunderestimated...once again.

181 posted on 11/08/2006 6:52:09 PM PST by evad
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To: West Coast Conservative

Forgive me for being a fatalist, but does anyone see the Second Amendment going the way of the dodo in the next 2 years? With Bolton out, the UN becomes a fertile ground for anti-gunners (IMHO), and anti-gun bills are certainly languishing in Congressional commissions that would now be passed into chambers for a vote, does W have the voting record to stand up for the Constitution?

With Bolton's possible exit, I already hear the whispers of IANSA and their ilk with plans to bring their global gun grab to the floor of the UN again. With a fickle majority in Congress, will the moderate Democrats, a la Joe Lieberman, see the importance of this issue, or should I start digging my "well oiled garden" now?

As a gun owner, and a proud one at that, I fear the removal of my ability to protect myself, the national network of cameras on every corner akin to present-day Chicago, and the rise in crime that will consistently be blamed on the sloth and degradation of society. Will we become the next Britain, or am I being completely delusional and hopeless for absolutely nothing? I'm not looking to be flamed, I really want to know if I have as much to worry about as the NRA tells me I do.

Incidentally, here in FL, they (NRA) asked that we vote Yes on Amendment 3 which brought the notion of "Majority" from 51% to 60% for Constitutional amendments. I voted No, yet the people of the great state of Florida said otherwise. I'm questioning the intent of the NRA now.

I'm just a young man... will the FRelders speak to me and wax nostalgic enough to sathe my fears, albeit temporarily?


182 posted on 11/08/2006 7:21:46 PM PST by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / Molwn Labe!)
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To: MayflowerMadam

BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA


183 posted on 11/08/2006 7:31:30 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

They're in the majority. What are ya gonna do? Democracy is about the majority having its way. Are you against democracy?


184 posted on 11/08/2006 7:54:30 PM PST by RightCenter
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To: Hattie

If "poor" J.D. complained a while back he most assuredly knew what was coming.... Running on your competition's issues is not a new tactic. The Republicans lost this election...even the party core is admitting that....I don't blame the transparent liberal media either. I blame those of us who refused to call out the mistakes that were being made and force changes before the disaster. Regardless of the reading of the bones the fact remains that we had better get engaged on '08 quickly or we will face a (more) Democratic WH and a solid Democratic congress. The GOP has failed us big time and it is time to take names and kick b#tt. We need a conservative party and we can win if we hold to the core principles. If we can't find an articulate conservative candidate, we will lose in '08. Some will say McCain is the bridge builder that can win....I don't buy that but in that event he would be no better than Bush, possibly worse and could not draw enough policy distinction to bring back a Republican congressional majority...after all he is a RINO.


185 posted on 11/09/2006 4:30:50 AM PST by Les_Miserables
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To: Swordfished

I wonder if Drudge is scanning FR. I posted this earlier way before Drudge made his post on his website (didn't see anyone else on FR saying the same thing earlier besides me, however, not wanting to be egotistical, perhaps I missed something):

Posted by flaglady47
On News/Activism 11/09/2006 2:35:27 AM PST · 7 of 7

The next "victim" of our losing the mid-term election to the Dems will be John Bolton. They will never approve him for continuing to be the U.N. Ambassador. Kiss him goodbye. And the Dems won't approve a replacement for him unless it is a U.N. *ss kissing appeaser that Bush nominates.


186 posted on 11/09/2006 4:40:13 AM PST by flaglady47 (thinking out loud)
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To: RightCenter
Democracy is about the majority having its way.

Democracy is four wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for supper.

Are you against democracy?

Yes. This was, once upon a time, a republic.

We have failed to keep it.

187 posted on 11/09/2006 4:40:54 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (I dare call it treason.)
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To: CindyDawg

Your relatives not withstanding, we lost on the issues. Until we acknowledge that and change our positions we will continue to lose. Blaming the media is not a winning strategy. Clearly the war in IRAQ has gone on too long...I'm for winning (still not convinced about how we got there) but this has been moving far too slowly and that is the problem...results gets votes...Failure to enforce a strong immigration policy is a major vote loser for the GOP. Bush's position is irrational and the irony and agony is by losing he has won the ability to press his irrational agenda on illegal amnesty. Failing to make Judicial appointments a campaign issue hurt us in the Senate, failure to follow through on Social Security reform, and on and on...The loss is no way a media caused event...as Pogo said "We has met the enemy and he is US." It is us we have to fix not the press; fixing the press in this country is not possible.


188 posted on 11/09/2006 4:42:38 AM PST by Les_Miserables
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

"Democracy is four wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for supper.
Are you against democracy?
Yes. This was, once upon a time, a republic.
We have failed to keep it."

Dead on. I want my Republic back. It's missing in action.


189 posted on 11/09/2006 4:43:16 AM PST by flaglady47 (thinking out loud)
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To: Les_Miserables
Failure to enforce a strong immigration policy is a major vote loser for the GOP.

Which explains why those who did got thrown out unless they were in hypersafe gerrymandered districts.

It is us we have to fix

Well, that isn't going to happen. For the sake of this or that favored position, we have just lost the war on terror and stabbed our troops in the back for the second time in a generation. Yes, I dare call it treason.

190 posted on 11/09/2006 4:50:14 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (I dare call it treason.)
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To: Les_Miserables

I agree about the issues but we lost on how people were told things were going.


191 posted on 11/09/2006 5:28:35 AM PST by CindyDawg
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
So is it the treasonous voters who could not see the issues clearly, or the treasonous candidates who could not articulate the issues clearly enough to convince the voters?? The GOP lost because it could not accomplish what the voters wanted..win in IRAQ and move on war not continue to flounder, drill in Anwar not fail to develop it with a majority, reform social security not wimp out, conserve the nation's finances not spend all of it, enforce immigration laws not grant amnesty to illegals, the beat goes on...and by the way, some RINOs took hits and lost the Senate. I would say good riddance to Dewine and Chafee except that it removes the chance to continue to bring reason to the SCOTUS and that itself should have been an election issue but the GOP failed to make it one....Bottom Line: If you convince the voters that as the majority party in both houses and holding the WH you still cannot govern do not be surprised if they don't show up at the polls....
192 posted on 11/09/2006 5:32:46 AM PST by Les_Miserables
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To: tobyhill

I remember seeing a list of judges that had not been approved (IIRC they hadn't even gone through committee) that Frist gave to the Pres. The Pubbies either need to push those through quickly or the Pres ought to recess appoint all of them!

If the Senate doesn't push Bolton through, I agree with whomever said that the Pres ought to make Bolton an ass't UN Ambassador or another position that doesn't need to be approved. Chafee owes the Pres and Pubbies BIG time for all the $$s they put in his campaign and their support - he better get on the bandwagon now and help get some appointments through (of course, I'm not counting on him for anything or Specter for the judges).


193 posted on 11/09/2006 5:36:48 AM PST by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: NonValueAdded

The RATs won't waste their time when there are bigger fish to fry (Cheney then Bush).
This is my biggest fear. They will go after Cheney first. They already have the ground work done-Haliburton,etc. Bush is going to run out of alligator food pretty fast. And I say this as a Bush admirer.


194 posted on 11/09/2006 5:52:20 AM PST by Himyar
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To: Les_Miserables
So is it the treasonous voters who could not see the issues clearly

They saw it clearly and elected Democrats. And you're busily making excuses for them doing so.

I had baggies full of s*** thrown at me when I got home from Vietnam. Did you? Or were you one of the guys throwing the baggies?

I saw my country betray the sacrifices of my brothers once before. I'm seeing them do it again. The only comfort I have is that, unlike 1975, the spiteful, fickle, ungrateful traitorous bastards who elected Democrats will reap what they have chosen to sow. "My fellow Americans" can kiss my a$$. My family will not spend one more drop of our blood in their defense. Getting stabbed in the back does not improve the second time around.

195 posted on 11/09/2006 7:56:29 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (I dare call it treason.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
I'm not making excuses for anyone and don't need insults from you... I threw no bags at anyone and I voted a straight ticket but if you think blaming the voters for this loss is the best logic I pity you...I lost friends in Nam and they deserve more than a pity party and blaming voters for the poor results of the GOP. IMO this war is far different and has been badly managed but the GOP has failed on many fronts not just the WOT.
We should have flattened IRAQ, turned it over to the exiles that wanted to run the show and moved on to Pakistan. Before that we should have flattened Tora Bora and nabbed OBL right there. The list of we shouldas includes Anwar, illegal amnesty, over spending, social security failure, Harriet Meirs, and on and on...and is just too long and there are too many people who want to ignore the lessons of failure and blame the voters or the media or fellow freepers. If we don't get a spine into the GOP da-n quick we will get to salute the Hildebeast in '08 and she will have a solid Rat congress. Is that what you want? Stop living in the past and help rebuild the GOP. And wearing your Nam history on your sleeve doesn't cut it with me. Lots of folks came through that period scarred. It has nothing to do with the present problems we face.
196 posted on 11/09/2006 8:13:16 AM PST by Les_Miserables
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To: Les_Miserables
if you think blaming the voters for this loss is the best logic I pity you

They cast the votes. The GOP leadership didn't hold a gun to their heads and order them to vote Democrat. Neither did the Democrats.

The voters can take all of the blame on this one.

197 posted on 11/09/2006 8:16:43 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (I dare call it treason.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Right blame the messenger and ignore the message.....terrific.


198 posted on 11/09/2006 8:21:05 AM PST by Les_Miserables
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Democracy is four wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for supper.

well stated!

my thought is that we need a better system. our republic started out fine, with limits on the power of government. representatives didn't have the kind of power and control that they now do, so the republic's life wasn't dependent on the whims of the 'common herd'.

now, the constitution, so amended and disregarded (especially by the 'commerce clause') that it means almost nothing, and representatives mean everything. it should mean everything and the reps near nothing.

a new system i'm thinking about is a constitutional republic where the only control and power the reps have is to spend/save a fixed % of revenue. the revenue is from a flat tax. the rest of the revenue is spent also by fixed percentages to roads, military, etc.

199 posted on 11/09/2006 8:43:07 AM PST by Swordfished
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

"Sort of General Sherman-ish in a bizarro-world sort of way"

LOL. It kind of reminds me of Saddam's scorched earth policy after Bush-I pushed the Iraqis out of Kuwait.


200 posted on 11/09/2006 8:54:02 AM PST by dashing doofus
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