Posted on 11/07/2006 10:19:51 PM PST by Brian_Baldwin
This loss is going to have historical consequences – how much is President Bush to blame for this loss? Is it too early to say that the blame for this loss rests squarely with President Bush and the “Bushbots”?
Bush? Or is it Bush and the RINOs? . . . And worst of all to blame, the fault of what some talk show hosts call the Harriet Myers Storm-trooper crowd of Bushbots who simply would bray like a donkey whenever conservatives brought up the obvious problems with Bush from illegal immigration, to port deals, to his globalist friends and massive spending?
Well, it isn’t going to just be me saying that President Bush and the bots wasted too many years, they had the power and blew it.
Only in the last couple weeks did Bush start to try to get the message out about the good economy, but the fact is there were many conservatives who kept saying this is a winning message for a long time, if only the Republicans would get serious about getting the message out --- and the reply from the Bushbots was “the DOW and the stock market isn’t the same as the economy”, ignoring that the important message about the economy wasn’t just the stock market but much more.
The Republicans were on a dog and pony show with the “Bushies”, of which some now call the “Bushbots”, and years were wasted with what many now say were idiots who followed someone who never was a conservative anyway. The reality might just start to sink in that Bush just used some conservative lingo to take these idiots for a ride.
Yes, the President was “on track” regarding the war on terrorism – and yes, he and everyone else were correct that this war won’t be over in one or two years. The point being – no, Bush didn’t own the adage that this will not be a short war, but will be a long war, perhaps decades long – and everyone who understood the enemy said the same, and were saying so before even Bush took office in 2000.
In fact, many of these conservatives were saying Usama bin Laden and the Islamic terrorists et all hit the Trade Center once and he was coming back to finish the job, but Bush was too busy running around with Vicente Fox talking amnesty to listen.
But don’t worry, Bush will probably get his amnesty now. No, I’m not talking about the amnesty for Iraqi “insurgents” who killed American soldiers (no amnesty for our soldiers being held for “war crimes?”), no I talking about amnesty for illegal aliens from Mexico. And one may as well say exactly what we are talking about here – this isn’t about amnesty for illegal aliens from Jamaica, nor Russians, and such – it’s all about illegal aliens from Mexico, which once given will be irreversible, America will not be the same ever again and no one will be able to turn it around once done, because it’s done.
The best hope in stopping the Bush amnesty was a Republican victory in the House in 2006, but the Bushbots sunk it for us all and now with the Democrats running the show you are going to see an amnesty bill forwarded and Bush will sign it with a smile as a “great example of bipartisan leadership”.
The funding for the war in Iraq will likely now be cut off, a front in the battle on terrorism of which Bush wasn’t fighting as a “war” against the terrorists anymore – yes, let me say that President Bush has been doing a good job regarding the war on terrorism so lets just get that out there now - but, it seemed more like he was thinking the war on that particular front was over and he was “building Democracy” and sure didn’t want to accidentally kill any Iraqi civilians in the process because it wouldn’t look good in the New York Times and CNN.
Anyway, for sure the Democrats are going to have the leverage to screw us up on that one and cut and run not just in Iraq but everywhere. If and when the Democrats get there way, which they likely now will, what that tells the world, since Vietnam, and now Iraq which really was a punch drunk easy war as far as any war goes, the message to the world will now be that America can never win another war.
And that is really bad news since a lot of Americans are going to die as a result.
What that means is Iran now runs the region. And billions and billions and billions of dinars will sponsor further terrorism as they dance in the street having defeated the great Satan – and the Islamic terrorist with a likely victory in Iraq will do exactly what they already said they are going to do: they will turn their attention to overthrowing the governments of Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan.
Pakistan already has the nuclear bomb.
The governments of Turkey, Egypt and Pakistan are next on the head-chopping list, of which the Islamic fundamentalists may likely have very good success on instigating the axe. Because, at least Bush did a good job on the war on terrorism, but you can absolutely count on it that if the Democrats are going to call the shots, the region is going to explode; the Islamic terrorist front will be global like no ones business.
The idiots have been saying the war on Iraq fomented more Islamic terrorists.
The fact is, the growth of Islamic terrorism is an historical trend of which was escalating before Iraq, was on the march and would have been as life-size now whether we invaded Iraq or not, in fact likely even more so if their march wasn’t tripped up a bit in old Babylon.
We have a great economy.
But the economy won’t be great after the terrorist hit us again. In fact, when it happens, don’t be surprised how fast you are going to lose your job.
Democrats running the House. Now just watch the war. The war isn’t over. It’s now going to get bigger than ever.
Well, I guess some are saying, with the Dems running things, they take the blame for things, too. The problem with this is, the old media will still blame everything on Bush. So, unless the American people figure out that what is about to happen to America was the fault of the Democrats, then we are in big trouble.
But we were already in big trouble with this election. And a lot of Americans didn’t understand the consequences now, and this will be the same crowd who won’t understand later when everything blows up in our face.
I suppose some are thinking that all I have been doing is the same as the Democrats – to simply blame Bush for everything.
No, I don’t blame Bush for everything. I blame myself. Because, for some reason, I didn’t get involved enough, involved with other conservatives to get the conservative message to Americans.
Thank you President Bush, you have had to deal with a lot of crap from the old media. As far as I’m concerned, I consider them an enemy of Democracy.
In fact, I consider the Democratic Party an enemy of Democracy.
And, thank you President Bush, since 911 we, America, hasn’t had another major terrorist attack on our soil. I give the President thanks for this. It has been a blessing.
I don’t think this blessing is going to last much longer. Not after tonight.
Amen.
Sorry -- "ping"...
Not to you in particular Howlin...Fox commentator just said we "most probably" lost the senate.
I don't really consider myself an "agenda person."
I voted for a pro-choice Pubbie for OR governor, (Ron Saxton) who, unfortuately, lost.
Because he would have worked with us in RTL.
I do think that Terri Schiavo was murdered by starvation, and I wish they had saved her life.
I wish I could clearly understand what exactly happened to the GOP tonight. It wasn't being a moderate that cost elections, it wasn't being a conservative, it wasn't being a "seal-up the borders" person, it was ALL of those factors that cost votes.
Ed
Precisely.
#244. I think it was the constant pounding by the MSM shilling for the dems. Enemedia!!!!
They cannot overrride a single veto.
No. Up until tonight, I was sanguine about the war. But now, it doesn't matter if American troops never lost a battle, American public opinion would demand the withdrawal of troops in a year.
I think it was the immigration issue that lost it for us. I knew it was a loser from the very beginning. I would love to see what our Hispanic vote was tonight.
Miers was the 101'st most qualified person for the position. This loss had to do with the war and the media.
And btw, in case it's been neglected in the heat of the week: Welcome to FR, Keeper. I like your posts...
I fear the Dems in power in the house,we may actually get situation similar to the series"JERICHO" having watched the show<i am distressed by such a prospect.GOD haelp President Bush and GOD help the U.S.!!!
Well,I've been told I'm so conservative I have to look to my left to see the Pope.
Alcee "IMPEACHED CROOK" HASTINGS is chairing US Intelligence Committee.
Feel safe?
I think America is going to be horrified when they see the Democrat freak show roll out.
Dems won't win WH in 2008.
Not neccessarily.
I am a conservative, and by your standards I would qualify as very conservative
You knon't know me or my standards.....lol.The GWOT was too important to lose over a temper tantrum by the right.
The terror war will not be lost. It's just a matter of how many of our brave warriours and citizens must fall. I don't know these things, but I do hope that Americans will not ever have to quake in fear of nuc's on our soil...If we do I will lose a great deal of faith in our people.
True, but Clinton was impeached by the House and the Senate left him in office. Same could happen to Bush if he keeps the Senate Republicans on his side. But looking back on the Clinton Impeachment, the Democrats would have been better off in the long run by removing Clinton from office. Gore would have used the incumbency advantage to beat the Electoral College margin, assuming of course that he did not have to pardon Clinton. So if Cheney wants to run in 2008, all bets are off with regards to the US Senate. Unfortunately it is also possible that we could have a Nixon replay here. The new dynamic now is that we have crazy leaders in Iran, Venezuela and North Korea. They will probably force our hands because DC is split and weak once again. In a nut shell, we are in for a very rocky ride. The Democrats used hook and crook (Foley, MSM et. al.) to be in power and my guess is they will probably end up wondering if it was worth it all.
I read Krauthammer and Steyn. From what they say, this is a "normal" mid-term response.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/02/AR2006110201597.html
From the article:
What to say about such a victory? Substantial, yes. Historic, no. Before proclaiming a landslide, one has to ask Henny Youngman's question: "Compared to what?" (His answer to: "How's your wife?") Since the end of World War II, the average loss for a second-term presidency in its sixth year has been 29 House seats and six Senate seats. If you go back to Franklin Roosevelt's second term, the House loss average jumps to 35. Thus a 25/6 House and Senate loss would be about (and slightly below) the historical average.
Ditto.
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