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LIVE THREAD: ELECTIONS 2006

Posted on 11/07/2006 5:04:31 PM PST by Dog

Please Mods can we have one central Live thread ...its tough jumping from thread to thread to get results.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; elections
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To: marajade
Three is a lot?

Out of 12 it is - it's 25%. The GOP only had 12 seats held by Republicans up for re-election - they lost at least 25% of them and maybe 33%.

That is huge. The House had about 220 republicans up for re-election and lost about 20 of them. That is only 10%.

The Senate took a much bigger hit than the House.

7,381 posted on 11/08/2006 2:25:35 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Michael81Dus
"So, let´s hope that NATO stay united on that issue"

Europeans backing Bush when the Repubs took a drubbing?

I wouldn't bet a plug nickel on that.

7,382 posted on 11/08/2006 2:25:41 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: conservative in nyc

Do you (or anyone else) know if MT has counted their absentees yet?

About an hour or so ago, Allen said there were absentee ballots yet to count in VA, so he wasn't conceding.


7,383 posted on 11/08/2006 2:25:58 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: NYCVirago
I need to get some new hobbies and interests!

I've been contemplating that tonight; I'm not all that thrilled at the "resurgence" of the Patsies here on FR (yes, they have come back in DROVES).........we need a hobby where we don't nearly stroke out!

What would we DO?

7,384 posted on 11/08/2006 2:26:27 AM PST by Howlin
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To: JeffAtlanta

Its all just a numbers game and we still might retain the senate. Remember VP Cheney has a vote.


7,385 posted on 11/08/2006 2:26:54 AM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: NYCVirago

Thanks for reminding me! I've still got my Redbirds!


7,386 posted on 11/08/2006 2:26:56 AM PST by Uriah_lost (We've got enough youth, how about a "fountain of smart")
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To: Howlin

We need to add Rangle. He's going to chair an important committee ... ways and means?


7,387 posted on 11/08/2006 2:27:03 AM PST by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: kesg
A Republican voter who refuses to vote Republican in a particular election (out of spite or whatever) is making it that much easier for the Democrat to win. This is simple common sense.

That voter has left the party. If someone leaves the party the best you can hope for is that he stays home or votes 3rd party. Would you rather him vote for the Democrats?

The goal is to stop the person from leaving the party in the first place.

7,388 posted on 11/08/2006 2:27:17 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: ohioWfan
His nomination was a real conservative grassroots effort, but he didn't get the support he needed, and he couldn't pry himself away from Taft's disaster..........even though he fought it all the way.

There were several factors in Ken Blackwell's loss. Yes, the Taft scandals were a drag. And possibly the loss of early support from the party was evident too. But that was early and there was a massive amount of healing that took place after the primary between Blackwell and the party.

The factors that also brought Blackwell down were his too cozy relationship with the religious right (too many non evangelical, but republian leaning voters are afraid of folks like Rod Parsley and the movers and shakers of the religious right). Blackwell wasn't seen as a maverick, but rather a bully. His persona is one of someone who doesn't play well in the sandbox. Also blame Blackwell for only playing to his base. He never once seriously attempted to make a case to independents and non social issue voting conservatives. In that manner he was divisive.

You had mentioned his strength in Richland County, yet he lost by almost 10 percentage points. In republican rich Delaware County in Central Ohio, he lost there too. I think there are only three democrats in Delaware County (ok joking, but it is a very republican county).

You've got to look at the popularity of President Bush. That too was as much of a drag as Taft.

Finally, if it was all Taft, then all the republicans would have lost with a similar margin as Blackwell did in the statewide races. They didn't. And one republican even won. The candidates who did most poorly were the ones most closely linked to social conservatives.

I've got to wonder where you and LS kept coming up with the information that the race was competitive. The only thing I can think of is you were either talking to like minded people only or the Blackwell campaign was feeding you information that wasn't statistically backable. Or you folks were trying to maintain a positive spin and blowing sunshine.

Ken Blackwell was the values voter version of the perfect candidate. We've been told too many times that if such a candidate was put on the ballot and play to those themes, they would win hands down. It didn't work.

7,389 posted on 11/08/2006 2:27:58 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: marajade
"There are just issues where the strongly conservative House was on the wrong side."

How can one be on the wrong side of an issue that does nothing?

7,390 posted on 11/08/2006 2:27:58 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: Howlin

The Dems won the House because their candidates were more tempered. Its gonna be interesting to see how they all fit in with the new leadership.


7,391 posted on 11/08/2006 2:28:26 AM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
The Dems won the House because their candidates were more tempered. Its gonna be interesting to see how they all fit in with the new leadership.

That was just all an act. Bill Clinton said the same thing in 1992.

7,392 posted on 11/08/2006 2:29:11 AM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: Jezebelle

From the Billings Gazette article I posted, it sounds like Montana counts its absentee ballots before counting their regular ballots.


7,393 posted on 11/08/2006 2:29:25 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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To: Mad Dawgg

Mad, don´t underestimate Europe. Here´s reason, too, and in the case of Iran, the stability of the whole Mideast and the safety of Israel and Europe are at risk.


7,394 posted on 11/08/2006 2:29:47 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Mad Dawgg

With states voting to increase the minimum wage themselves when it should be the Feds who do it why do you keep insisting that the house was on the right side of that issue?


7,395 posted on 11/08/2006 2:29:57 AM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: furquhart

I don't think Rum should go because the rats won. Eff 'em. I'm sick of the GOP caving in and kowtowing to the rats.


7,396 posted on 11/08/2006 2:30:05 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: JeffAtlanta
That voter has left the party. If someone leaves the party the best you can hope for is that he stays home or votes 3rd party. Would you rather him vote for the Democrats?

I would rather him vote Republican, thus helping to defeat the Democrat. Is this a trick question?

7,397 posted on 11/08/2006 2:30:05 AM PST by kesg
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To: Lexinom
"So earners' mother's don't have to subsist on dog food."

Except when all is said and done the price off dog food will go up and again she will be back to dog food.

You can't raise the water on one side of the bathtub. Water seeks its own level. As does the free market. Try and raise this wages on this side and unless you put in price freezes it just goes ahead and seeks its own level again.

7,398 posted on 11/08/2006 2:31:35 AM PST by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: conservative in nyc

What do those percentages translate to in numbers of votes?


7,399 posted on 11/08/2006 2:31:55 AM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle

Yellowstone is the biggest, followed by Gallatin. The rest of the counties are fairly small.


7,400 posted on 11/08/2006 2:32:42 AM PST by conservative in nyc
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