Posted on 11/07/2006 5:04:31 PM PST by Dog
Please Mods can we have one central Live thread ...its tough jumping from thread to thread to get results.
I'm a suburban mom Catholic....straight R voter....but I'm also a Texan. We're smart! :-)
Well, if we lose MT, we can thank the Losertarians for handing the senate to the rats. For a party that hates taxation, that was a really, really dumb way to vote.
Except that Burns only carried Yellowstone by 2,600 when he last ran in 2000.
Fingers crossed though, this is gonna be a nailbiter.
Apparently the major one is Yellowstone County, which is reporting no votes at all. This is where the election will be one or lost. I saw somewhere that it is even, but President Bush carried it by a 2 to 1 margin in 2004.
Right now the remaining counties (other than Yellowstone) seem slightly more favorable to Burns, but you really can't tell until all the votes come in.
Before we get too excited, Burns likely needs a cushion of I don't know how many votes, because Yellowstone County - according to ABC/Associated Press, yet to be counted - has gone to Tester.
But my source for this is not solid; it's a post in NRO's Corner Blog: http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MzFhMjhlNDNlNWRkMWY4NWExOWM2MjgxZjBiODdjYmE=
The base voted almost straight GOP.
Of course they did. Depressing your base doesn't mean that they vote for the other party, it means that they don't vote in the same numbers as the opposition. It is clear that happened tonight.
Clearly? I beg to differ. GOTV was very successful. The base voted. The base isn't enough. End of story. We need to stop the infighting and take a pragmatic approach. In today's world you need a big tent. All parts play a role and those who denegrate one part or another harm the greater good.
maybe this night can be salvaged after all.
Yeah, and when the country is pretty much split 50/50 the parties can't afford to lose SOME of their base because they feel that the party has let them down.
And in case you're trying to make this personal, I am fortunate enough to live in an area where I could vote straight GOP. The republicans in Georgia actually govern as conservatives so it makes it easy to conservatives to vote for them. That is why the Georgia GOP is having a historic night while the national GOP is having a terrible one.
Why is Yellowstone so late with their results?
Well, you're gonna see what lockstep voting can do.
Enjoy it all.
And don't bother coming around bitching about how horrible the Democrats are.
Man, do I have my fingers crossed big time. But the way things have gone tonight, well......you know.
Another thread is looking at that...
We have a short window to get Iraq on the right path or we will be fighting terrorists here in our streets.
Secondly, I just heard the new Governor of NY and the head of the dem legislature there promising multi millions of dollars of new aid to NYC schools. News announcer saying that Pataki fought this expenditure for years.
So NYers woke up to new taxes. Same happened in NJ. First thing the new dem Gov did was raise taxes and more will be on the table.
Somehow the greatest generation spawned the most cowardly and selfish generation.
From what I can tell the markets are down in Europe, Asia, and the futures are down here in the US.
So which is it? Did our base not show up or did our base vote for the other party?
Our base was big enough to win this election as it was certainly capable in 2004.
This summary is giving me a warm and fuzzy feeling. Yellowstone hasn't reported in yet. When it does, the race will be razor close. A few thousand votes either way will decide the election -- and control of the Senate.
All I have is the headline from ABC; no story behind it that I could find.
I can't get MT's results page at all. Are you still able to get it? If so, gotta link?
Yellowstone is, according to the Montana Secretary of State, being counted again - for some reason.
I'm cautiously optimistic. Burns led in the county last time and, looking at what's left to come in, I think that if he ties or better, he wins the seat (and we keep the Senate).
You're right about the check-kiting scandal - remember how Dan Rostenkowski lost his seat because of it?
I think a whole lot more than the base came out, though. I think this was a referendum on Iraq and I didn't see that coming. I thought since we won in 2004 and Lieberman was polling well, the Iraq issue was settled in our favor, but I think the relentless MSM negative pounding on it finally had an effect. People who otherwise wouldn't have bothered to vote in an off-year election went to express their displeasure with Reps over the war.
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