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Does Offshore Programming Threaten Combat Software?
Businessweek ^ | 11/02/2006 | Steve Hamm and Dawn Kopecki

Posted on 11/02/2006 2:16:43 PM PST by RevTom

As combat becomes increasingly high-tech, Pentagon officials worry that "accidental defects" or "maliciously placed code" buried within a computer program could compromise the security of the Defense Dept. network and, ultimately, hurt its ability to fight wars, says Pentagon spokesman Maj. Patrick Ryder. A task force of the Defense Science Board is in the final stages of preparing a recommendation on how to deal with the fact that some of the software the military buys is produced offshore. While task force deliberations are secret, the conversations between its members and outside technology and security experts are raising concerns among tech industry groups here and abroad.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: combat; pentagon; software; terrorism
This kind of thing should be obvious, IMHO. One does not send one's critical classified programming out of the country (and we're not talking England here, either) and then act surprised when it is compromised.
1 posted on 11/02/2006 2:16:44 PM PST by RevTom
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To: RevTom

You think?!


2 posted on 11/02/2006 2:18:04 PM PST by elpinta
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To: RevTom

Did you know that all of our precision guided munitions operate off of a battery-powered guidance system? And that the sole source for those batteries is a factory in China? We've been outsourcing national security for years.


3 posted on 11/02/2006 2:19:35 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: RevTom

More proof outsourcing is destroying this country.


4 posted on 11/02/2006 2:54:08 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: RevTom

One has to agree. Weapon systems should rely on good proven Microsoft software. ;-)


5 posted on 11/02/2006 2:54:53 PM PST by glorgau
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To: RevTom

Main screen turn on.

Someone set up us the bomb.


6 posted on 11/02/2006 2:57:25 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: RevTom
There is no control over the programs or data once they are offshore. And if it is the religious duty of Muslims to kill the infidel (us) they'll sabotoge our software. And that goes for banking information and security software too.
7 posted on 11/02/2006 3:02:46 PM PST by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: Ukiapah Heep

bigger threat is china sets up myriad defects or exploits in all types of military software apps in the event of any conflict, they shut us things across the board.

You would assume we would do the same to them, but presumably they are not outsourcing their coding.


8 posted on 11/02/2006 3:16:06 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: WoofDog123
You would assume we would do the same to them, but presumably they are not outsourcing their coding.

Why would a government that cares about national sovereignty and security do a foolish thing like that.

Say what you want about the Chinese, but they have national pride and allegiance. Leave it to a government comprised of politicians who only care about political contributions and corporate graft to do something as foolish as outsource security.

9 posted on 11/02/2006 3:24:20 PM PST by nitzy (Every man needs a credo)
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To: ozoneliar
More proof outsourcing is destroying this country.

The sky is falling!

10 posted on 11/02/2006 3:25:30 PM PST by opinionator
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To: nitzy

I would figure there is more chinese money in OUR political system than we spend on outsourced software coding for the military.

I cannot imagine why anyone (not you) would think the 1996 scandal with the DNC was in any way isolated, since one of the things countries do is try to influence the government (or elections) in countries they have an interest in, or a problem with.


11 posted on 11/02/2006 3:31:35 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: opinionator
I'm glad our elected officials don't just sit back and laugh at well meaning and reasoned concern over security and sovereignty......Then again, they probably do. Are you an elected official?
12 posted on 11/02/2006 3:58:52 PM PST by nitzy (Every man needs a credo)
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To: RevTom; Paul Ross; Tailgunner Joe; Carl/NewsMax; Jeff Head; DarkWaters; Sean Osborne Lomax

I can state with authority that the DoD are currently buying computer hardware that has code written in the PRC and Russia in it's software stack. That's a fact Jack ...


13 posted on 11/02/2006 4:02:18 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: RevTom
One of the possible conclusions is that very sensitive software would be written differently vs. the commercial software that DOD uses extensively," says the Defense Science Board's Schneider. The DOD is "not going to write the next version of Vista. We're happy to use Microsoft."

.... and that says it all.

14 posted on 11/02/2006 4:04:56 PM PST by TheCipher
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To: Non-Sequitur; GOP_1900AD; A. Pole; Jeff Head; Travis McGee
Yup. And China is SOOOO reliable and friendly....NOT!

You likely noted this factoid :

Clear and Present Concern

Concerns about cybersecurity are frighteningly real. Just three weeks ago, the Commerce Dept. revealed that attacks by Chinese hackers forced one of its bureaus to cut off Internet access and discard virus-infected computers. It was the second such major attack on U.S. government computers since July. This threat of hostiles sabotaging networks or opening secret back doors for spying is what motivated the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission in April to recommend a change in how the State Dept. used some of the PCs it bought from Lenovo Group, the PC giant that started in China. "It's clearly a legitimate and present security concern," says Larry M. Wortzel, the commission's chairman.

If it weren't so dangerous...this would be amusing that the two stooge depts. that had been so quick to brush off security concerns over the sale of IBM's PC Division to Lenovo...now have to EAT CROW.
15 posted on 11/02/2006 4:58:55 PM PST by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: Paul Ross

What I do remember that most people lately seem to have forgotten is that China stole the plans for the MX missile a few years ago.

Sorry, the Peacemaker doesn't make me very happy in their hands.


16 posted on 11/02/2006 6:10:35 PM PST by RevTom
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To: RevTom
Domestically employed H1Bs threaten combat software.
17 posted on 11/02/2006 6:15:33 PM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: RevTom
Actually, the Chi-Comms got the W-87 warhead design, according to one of our premier bomb-designers...Sam Cohen, and he suspected that we...or rather I should say...JIMMY CARTER...and subsequently BILL CLINTON gave it to them.

See this locked thread on Free Republic: The Cox Report-The Surprising Truth

18 posted on 11/03/2006 9:59:13 AM PST by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: RevTom

Of course! Does it make any sense at all to have programs written overseas in countries where our laws do not apply? Countries with large numbers of people who would willingly blow themselves up to take us out and who would not care if they get caught sabotaging programs and are prosecuted?
No sense. Our spineless politicians, including Bush, are to blame.


19 posted on 11/03/2006 12:04:07 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Jihadism seeks to eliminate Christians, Jews and atheists. Do you know where your head is?)
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To: glorgau
I think you forgot the "sarcasm" tag?

Carolyn

20 posted on 11/03/2006 12:09:18 PM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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