The Iraq War Is a Cake-Walk

Me

[Dominic Harr]

In a month of fighting on Iwo Jima, we had over 6,000 dead, 25,000 wounded.

And that was a victory.

And now, many Americans consider 2,500 dead/20,000 wounded over several years to be a loss!?

The only hope for victory the enemy has is American public opinion. We've won all the battles. We kill more of them than they kill of us. We hold most of the territory.

Yet I even see Rs calling this a 'failed' war, and suggesting we can't win.

[Dominic Harr]

Wasn't there either

You're ducking the question, my friend.

You know what I'm asking. I'm assuming you refuse to answer cuz you don't like the answer . . .

[oyez]

Iraq isn't some isolated sterile volcanic island with virtually zip population..

[Dominic Harr]

I think the title is insulting to families of dead Iraq War vets.

!?! Wow.

"Don, your son died fighting in Iraq. We're winning in a cake-walk, but in war some people die. He died a hero, as part of a massive victory."

And you think this is insulting?

[NYleatherneck]

Let me get this straight... Disaster. Cake Walk

[edsheppa]

Dude, you need to hang with smarter folks.

[Chief_Joe]

We picked the time and place for the battle, chose ground we want to fight on.

Baloney. It's obvious by now it was part of their strategy not to engage us initially head on but to fight a prolonged gorilla war. Your analysis is so "MBAish", so "Wall Streetish", so "quarterly reportish". Really, you think you can just arbitrarily define success to be whatever you want it to be? You should not be so concerned about "selling" some baloney to the American public. Instead, you should be concerned with "sending" the "message" to those we're fighting.

[Dominic Harr]

Iraq isn't some isolated sterile volcanic island with virtually zip population..

Exactly my point.

Iraq is *easier* than that was. Comparatively, it's a cake-walk.

We've become so scared by the PC movement, who has declared that if one soldier dies, it's a disaster!

[LexBaird]

Can't say... Wasn't at Verdun. Semper Fi, NYleatherneck

Since you are a Leatherneck, I assume you have heard of Belleau Wood?

[NYleatherneck]

Sure have.

[Dominic Harr]

Let me get this straight... Disaster.

Methinks you don't understand a word I'm saying. :-)

Both victories. And comparatively, Iraq is a cake walk.

[citizenmike]

I agree with you; the military missions in Afghanistan and Iraq have had the lowest body count (percentagewise) of any war. This represents a new level of strategy, tactics, technology and training. I believe future military historians will look back on this as a turning point in the strategy of war.

Sometimes it is useful to look at wars objectively and disspassionately in order to evaluate them. It seems to me that most of the negative commenters are more focused on the emotional aspect of our lost soldiers rather than trying to understand the point you are making.

[Dominic Harr]

Dude, you need to hang with smarter folks.

I assume you count yourself among the 'smarter folks'.

Then tell me-- compared to Verdun, Okinawa, the battle of the bulge, etc, is Iraq a cake-walk?

[atlaw]

Ask them, compared to Verdun in WWI, is this a cake walk? . . . I'm so amused.

And I'm sure that US soldiers in Iraq appreciate your amusement.

I don't know where this moronic argument got started, but "not as many dead as [fill-in-the-blank]" reeks of typical talk-radio juvenilality, so I suspect that's its source.

[Dominic Harr]

Really, you think you can just arbitrarily define success to be whatever you want it to be?

Militarily, success is defined as:

• We win all the battles.

• We hold the vast majority of the territory.

• We kill more of them than they kill of us.

• The battle is taking place on *their* soil, not ours.

You're mistaken, friend. This is a big win.

[RVN Airplane Driver]

I did a fact check and the least we lost in Vietnam while I was there in 1969-1970 was 350 in one WEEK. Yes this is a relatively low loss war. That being said every loss is tragic...just not as many tragedies in this war.

[Dominic Harr]

And I'm sure that US soldiers in Iraq appreciate your amusement.

That attitude is what amuses me the most.

The soldiers *think* we're winning in a cake-walk, compared to Iwo Jima, etc.

You think they'd rather hear that this is a disaster??? Try and put yourself in their shoes. You're in this every day, and I come up to them and say, "Good job, it's a tough fight but we're wining in a cake-walk." Do you think they're insulted?

No way.

Amusing, to say the least.

[nicko]

yeah, I guess you're right...it's a cake walk...piece of cake...you know, this sounds like something Kerry might say..."...and you might get stuck in Iraq...good news is, though, that it's a piece of cake..." ...so I answered your question...now, how 'bout answering this one? Have you been in combat?

[Dominic Harr]

I'm curious -- why do you refuse to answer the question? It is the central point of this thread.

19 of our people died in our assault on Grenada. But that was a cake-walk.

If you are in Iraq, and I say, "Good job, it's tough on you but you're winning in a cake-walk", is that insulting?

[ChurtleDawg]

this is nonsense. no war is a cakewalk.