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“There has never been an American army as violent and murderous as the one in Iraq
The McGill Daily ^ | October 30th, 2006 | Martin Lukacs

Posted on 11/02/2006 6:38:43 AM PST by Greystoke

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To: Greystoke

Is "Seymour Hersh" a pseudonym for "John Kerry"?


41 posted on 11/02/2006 7:02:02 AM PST by bigbob (2)
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To: beaversmom

There is so many i can't keep them straight!


42 posted on 11/02/2006 7:03:20 AM PST by ustanker (Vote on the 7th)
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To: Lazamataz

But, I thought the lefties were telling us that we weren't abused when we got back from Vietnam! They can't seem to keep their lies straight.


43 posted on 11/02/2006 7:03:25 AM PST by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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To: beaversmom
Should'nt you pronounce that "Jenn-Jiss" with a faux Brahmin/Beacon Hill accent?

Sermour Hersh is sold to everybody as a middle of the road journalist. He is nothing more than a hateful leftist full of lies.

44 posted on 11/02/2006 7:03:44 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Greystoke

Maybe he should go over to Iraq and try and talk to the
terrorists... that should fix everything..


45 posted on 11/02/2006 7:05:30 AM PST by ropin71 (God Bless our Troops!)
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To: stm

"Fortunately for Republicans, we have all the guns and the experience on how to use them"

Do not underestimate. The world's most notorious murderers have been liberals. Stalin, Mao, even Hitler. Liberals are unstable, and desire to engineer society. They are also filled with the certainty that they are superior. When they are pressed, and denined, they can become some of the most indiscriminantly violent beings on the planet. There is a reason they aren't repelled by terrorists and terrorism.


46 posted on 11/02/2006 7:07:55 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Greystoke
Hersh, a Pulitzer-prize winning journalist...

And O.J. Simpson won the Heisman Trophy with the biggest landslide margin ever. Awards do not guarantee character and credibility.


47 posted on 11/02/2006 7:11:35 AM PST by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: Greystoke
I would love to stick thick-headed jackasses like Hersch on the receiving end of the Russian army, the Chinese army, the North Korean army or the Iranian army and see just what the words 'violent' and 'murderous' really mean. If anything, the U.S. military has been held back by the political correctness that Hersch's buddys are so damned proud of.

Hersch and all the other America-haters can go straight to hell for all I care.
48 posted on 11/02/2006 7:16:27 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God." (Psalm 53:1))
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To: Greystoke
he has broken news about the secret U.S. bombing of Cambodia, covert C.I.A. attempts to overthrow Chilean president Salvador Allende, and, more recently, the first details about American soldiers abusing prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

A flat out lie. The Army was aware of and already investigating Abu Ghraib... the U.S. Military "broke the news" to the media.

49 posted on 11/02/2006 7:17:47 AM PST by Toadman
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To: epluribus_2

Here Here! Well Said.


50 posted on 11/02/2006 7:19:56 AM PST by Greystoke
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To: Greystoke
What a piece of work this guy is.

Work? You mean: sh!t, right? Besides, the gigolo never "worked" a day in his life!

51 posted on 11/02/2006 7:20:00 AM PST by melancholy (A new axis of evil: Nooks & Iranies allied with the "American" NeocoMs led by Abu Jack al Murthawi.)
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To: Greystoke

This guy is full of bs.


52 posted on 11/02/2006 7:38:07 AM PST by freekitty
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To: Greystoke

The general problem since WWII is a that our country has had it very well, we have time to debate the moral implications of war and peace. The problem is 1/2 our country has lost the understanding that war is sometimes necessary and that if we are engaged in a war, the gloves must come off so we WIN. Whether we should have been in Iraq or not no longer matters. In hindsight, we should have gathered more solid intelligence about Saddam's WMD program before committing and I will leave it at that.

The American public is frustrated we have no clear goals to WIN in sight and people like me are upset we let the militias funded by Iran keep us in quagmire as our troops die from roadside bombs and hit and run attacks. People compare Iraq to Vietnam and in a way they are right. In Vietnam we were winning militarily until the media and left created a political climate of restraint against the enemy. We need to be ruthless and win in Iraq right now. If we are not going to do this, then let's bring the boys home and focus our efforts on other more serious developing problems in the world, specifically Iran.


53 posted on 11/02/2006 7:41:36 AM PST by quantfive
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To: TheConservator
Although my rational mind says that an actual division of this country is extremely unlikely, the ideological division is very real and bitter.

But where to draw the new Mason-Dixon line? If we just outlined the blue zones, the left would demand a contiguous state like the Palestinians and we'd have to have a lefty highway from New England to California :)

54 posted on 11/02/2006 7:43:18 AM PST by Sender ("Always tell the truth; then you don't have to remember anything." -Mark Twain)
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To: TheConservator
I read stuff like this and I think--Civil war is coming to this country.

No sweat. Cut off all gubment services and we'll have victory in less than 72 hours.

55 posted on 11/02/2006 7:53:32 AM PST by Niteranger68 (Already voted absentee...straight Republican ticket...best choice on the menu.)
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To: TheConservator

I agree with you.

If some lib noodles and cowards are "threatening" violence when they lose, something is heading that way.


56 posted on 11/02/2006 8:01:37 AM PST by melancholy (A new axis of evil: Nooks & Iranies allied with the "American" NeocoMs led by Abu Jack al Murthawi.)
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To: SlowBoat407
"If it were true we'd probably have things sorted out by now."



That was my first thought too. I remember seeing pics of GI's in WW2 with flamethrowers and other neat weapons that wouldn't be too politically correct to use on the enemy, even today.
57 posted on 11/02/2006 8:11:08 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Greystoke

Written by a typical liberal fool who believes in the utter fallacy of war without violence or even casualties. The purpose of an army is to break things and kill people.

Obviously an idiot... and one that does not deserve one more second's worth of our attention.


58 posted on 11/02/2006 8:19:42 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU HAVE NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT. Actually, you lack even a legitimate excuse.)
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To: Sender

"Although my rational mind says that an actual division of this country is extremely unlikely, the ideological division is very real and bitter.
But where to draw the new Mason-Dixon line? If we just outlined the blue zones, the left would demand a contiguous state like the Palestinians and we'd have to have a lefty highway from New England to California :)"

We were united for a bit after 911. We'll be united fully once we are attacked with a nuclear weapon, delivered via proxy by Al Queda or Hebollah from Iran or North Korea. The left is going to enable this to occur.

Of course the ulitmate responsibility may lie with Russia or China so the potential for a global WWIII is very high right now. At that point, the left will see how enemies are ruthless and use whatever means necessary to victory, then the gloves will finally come off. Too bad hundreds of thousands of people will have to die to unite us but that is probably what it will take.


59 posted on 11/02/2006 8:29:11 AM PST by quantfive
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To: Greystoke

I guess he forgot the US civil war?


60 posted on 11/02/2006 8:34:43 AM PST by zek157
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