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Police Stun Gun Kills Teen with Bible
Kerry Fox Live Blog ^ | 10-31-2006

Posted on 10/31/2006 6:44:53 AM PST by Types_with_Fist

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1 posted on 10/31/2006 6:44:54 AM PST by Types_with_Fist
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To: Types_with_Fist

Well, isn't that something...


2 posted on 10/31/2006 6:49:01 AM PST by babygene
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To: Types_with_Fist

I guess you have to take appropriate defensive action when someone is coming at you with a Bible.


3 posted on 10/31/2006 6:51:03 AM PST by Sender ("Always tell the truth; then you don't have to remember anything." -Mark Twain)
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To: Types_with_Fist

Once again, lazy/incompetent cops think the Taser is an electric squirt gun, not, as intended, a weapon to be used only when you think you need to kill the guy.


4 posted on 10/31/2006 6:51:16 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Types_with_Fist

"“I want Jesus” "

Well, I guess he got his wish, but I'm sure that's not how he intended to find him.


5 posted on 10/31/2006 6:51:32 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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Um...

Not enough details. He could have looked like he was going for a gun - in which case, would you have preferred that the cop empty the magazine of his regular firearm into the teen? Because that's the only other alternative in such a case.

I think we'll find that this kid was high on drugs and had a heart defect.


6 posted on 10/31/2006 7:03:21 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Types_with_Fist
Tasers are grossly mislabeled, they are not "less than lethal" weapons.

If police were properly informed about this, they may be less cavalier about using them.

An unarmed teenager vs. two police officers does not require a taser to subdue.
7 posted on 10/31/2006 7:04:57 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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Um... Not enough details.

Exactly. Sounds pretty overreactive but do you expect all of the facts from the press?

8 posted on 10/31/2006 7:10:54 AM PST by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: jiggyboy

Seems to me that unless he was threatening someone directly that this may be a case of ineptitude, at least based on what is in this particular story.

Someone who's acting strange, can be doing so for a number of reasons, menengitis, injury, mental illness, etc etc etc... It doesn't sound like the teen was threatening anyone directly, just acting strangely and ignoring the officers. Seems keeping folks away and handling it better than just force would have been more appropriate.

Sounds like the cops needlessly escalated the situation because someone didn't 'respect their authoritay."

Who knows what happened, I'm sure the facts will come out, maybe he was threatening others, but unless he was, it doesn't seem like the type of situation a taser would be called for.


9 posted on 10/31/2006 7:12:47 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Spktyr
Not enough details. He could have looked like he was going for a gun...

There are enough details present -- and not present -- for me. If there was any way they could spin a scratch of the nose for "suspect appeared to be reaching for a gun", they would have.

And they've only been using the Tasers for five months. That says to me that, as a group, the PD really doesn't know what is likely to happen when they pull that trigger.

10 posted on 10/31/2006 7:13:45 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Types_with_Fist

Sounds like a good lawsuit against someone.


11 posted on 10/31/2006 7:15:45 AM PST by Brilliant
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Um.. he'd already been tazered once... and was down and struggling with them.. what exact gun was he going for when they tazered him again????

Sorry, but based on what little info is in this article, its hard to believe the cops didn't handle this situation poorly all the way around.

Now the facts will come out, and if the cops acted appropriately fine, but if some mentally unstable teen just died because a couple of cops screwed up royal they need taken to the woodshed.


12 posted on 10/31/2006 7:15:58 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Types_with_Fist

At least they didn't shoot his dog.


13 posted on 10/31/2006 7:16:21 AM PST by mysterio
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To: HEY4QDEMS

Why do you suppose the stunned him twice?


14 posted on 10/31/2006 7:16:27 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Types_with_Fist

Ah, those dangerous bible thumpers. I'm in St. Louis. No, this kid did not look like he was going for a gun. The police were scared because of his "extreme" religious position. Holding a bible and wanting Jesus. He has to be CRAZY. Hey Larry (with the GED education), stun him. Well Sgt. Bob (with a high school education), he is still struggling. Stun him again until he stops moving.

Duh Sarg....I think he would still be moving as we shock the hell out of him.


15 posted on 10/31/2006 7:17:11 AM PST by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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Why do you suppose the stunned him twice?

Because they falsely believe that the Taser is safe to use and non-lethal.
16 posted on 10/31/2006 7:19:54 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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Why do you suppose the stunned him twice?

Perhaps the police thought he had one more thump left in his Bible. ;^)

17 posted on 10/31/2006 7:20:22 AM PST by Right Brother
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To: Bigh4u2

Regarding police screw ups. Have you seen this?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9VNB7Z40w00


18 posted on 10/31/2006 7:22:29 AM PST by floridareader1
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To: Types_with_Fist

Perhaps yelling that Name of all names incited some denizens from Hell?


19 posted on 10/31/2006 7:26:34 AM PST by RoadTest ( He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches. -Rev. 3:6)
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To: Types_with_Fist

Stupid police officers.


20 posted on 10/31/2006 7:28:24 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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