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A380 crisis: Emirates sends in auditors to assess new A380 schedule
Flight International ^ | 17/10/2006 | Nicholas Ionides

Posted on 10/27/2006 4:56:11 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative

Biggest airline customer wants to find out if Airbus's revised timetable is realistic

Emirates is preparing to send a team of auditors to Airbus's production facilities to try to determine if the manufacturer's new delivery schedules for its heavily delayed A380 programme are realistic.

Emirates Airline president Tim Clark told Flight International: "We really need to see how much credibility there is with regards to the new delivery timings." He adds: "We have a team going there to audit their [production processes] in the middle of next month."

Clark says the team of four or five Emirates employees will be "mainly from the engineering side" of the airline. While acknowledging that they are not experts in airframe manufacturing, he says it is hoped they will be able to determine whether Airbus's new delivery schedules are achievable.

Airbus recently announced another round of extensive delays to the A380 as a result of production-related issues. Although Emirates' first A380 (MSN011) is structurally complete and has sat in the Toulouse assembly hangar since early this year, the Dubai flag carrier is not scheduled to take delivery of its first craft until October 2008 - around two years later than originally planned.

Fast-growing Emirates is by far the biggest customer for the A380. It has 45 on firm order, including two leased examples, representing a third of the entire A380 passenger aircraft orderbook.

"The delays have set us back a lot," says Clark. "By the time our first aircraft is coming in, we should have had 18 of them in service."

Clark also says last week's abrupt resignation of Airbus chief executive Christian Streiff after just a few months in the job was an "unwelcome development", but he hopes it will lead to major changes within the company to help it avoid future problems.

"Hopefully, this is a big wake-up call to them," says Clark, adding that he hopes new chief executive Louis Gallois will be "determined to make it the fighting machine that it was". Clark says Emirates remains committed to its A380 orders as "we still believe in the aeroplane".

Singapore Airlines (SIA), which is to be the first operator of the A380, says it has also been closely monitoring production-related issues at Airbus. "We've had engineers on the ground in Toulouse for a few months now, because the aircraft that are on the line right now are predominantly going to be delivered to us, so we have a good reason to have teams working with Airbus engineers as the project develops," it says.

"We also have a good understanding of the progress of the aircraft toward certification, which gives us a level of satisfaction that the problems are, as they say, production, not technical."

SIA adds: "We don't so much see their role as supervisory or audit, but to identify and resolve issues - particularly customer-related ones - which arise during the production of our aircraft and the certification of the A380."



TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: a380; airbus; emirates

1 posted on 10/27/2006 4:56:12 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

New delivery date: August 30, 2093. Delivery direct from Beijing.


2 posted on 10/27/2006 4:57:18 PM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: COEXERJ145; microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; namsman; ...

Singapore Airlines engineers have been monitoring progress at Airbus's Toulouse
assembly hangar for months

If you want on or off my aerospace ping list, please contact me by Freep mail.


3 posted on 10/27/2006 4:57:42 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

Park one alongside the Spruce Goose and walk away guys, just walk away


4 posted on 10/27/2006 4:58:46 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Paleo Conservative
Europe is indeed ill. Expelling the muzzies and commies is now almost impossible.
5 posted on 10/27/2006 5:01:23 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: TommyDale
New delivery date: August 30, 2093. Delivery direct from Beijing.

Actually, if they just shipped it all to Beijing, it might actually make it into service on time.
6 posted on 10/27/2006 5:01:49 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I'm going on record now as saying that the Emirates auditors will discover that the plane is actually going to be delayed *four* years, not the two they were promising.


7 posted on 10/27/2006 5:04:06 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Paleo Conservative; sionnsar

Now, lettuce see.

We have poduction, not technical,issues with the new Airbus.

The French are trying to BUILD the Airbus, presumeably the same plane that is being photogrpahed.

The French are behind schedule, but are NOT having technical issues.




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So why aren't there any people WORKING on the airplane being built?


8 posted on 10/27/2006 5:14:06 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
So why aren't there any people WORKING on the airplane being built?

I thought all the workers in Toulouse were putting in 35 hours a week. Wait a minute. Maybe the photo was taken in August when everyone in France goes on vacation.

9 posted on 10/27/2006 5:29:25 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

They are all inside doing the rewiring.


10 posted on 10/27/2006 6:23:34 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I met Bill Clinton once but he didn’t really talk — he was hitting on my wife)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Emirates is preparing to send a team of auditors to Airbus's production facilities to try to determine if the manufacturer's new delivery schedules for its heavily delayed A380 programme are realistic.

Emirates need to grab Airbus' A380 Project Manager and pick out a few dozen milestones on the critical path and assign completion dates with financial incentives for each milestone. Then make Airbus prove progress by making the selected milestones on time.

11 posted on 10/27/2006 6:34:43 PM PDT by RJL
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To: digger48
Check this out. Richard Aboulafia is pretty influential in the Airline Industry. keep in mind he was saying this back in June - before this latest round of real problems had sunk in.
12 posted on 10/27/2006 8:44:29 PM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Although Emirates' first A380 (MSN011) is structurally complete and has sat in the Toulouse assembly hangar since early this year, the Dubai flag carrier is not scheduled to take delivery of its first craft until October 2008 - around two years later than originally planned.

I wonder if there might be an additional "issue" thus far unreleased.

(Besides the weight, wiring, weak wings, weak tail, and dreadful efficiency, I mean.)

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13 posted on 10/27/2006 9:58:42 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Seaplaner
I wonder if there might be an additional "issue" thus far unreleased.

I rather doubt that plane will be the first A380 delivered to Emirates. The first few planes off the line are test planes and differ from the final certified version. I bet the first planes delivered will be directly from the production line with all the new corrections built in. The initial aircraft will probably be refurbished later to conform the certified standard.

14 posted on 10/27/2006 10:04:33 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative
Paleo, I'm certain that you are correct.

I remain, however, just a bit suspicious that there may be a problem with the A380 that EADS hasn't described yet.

No proof, mind you, just a "hunch".

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15 posted on 10/27/2006 10:12:25 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Seaplaner

Considering the lack of candor Airbus and EADS have exhibited regarding the delays and reasons for delays in the A380 program, I'm sure many of the A380 customers have the same suspicions you do.


16 posted on 10/27/2006 10:18:04 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: razorback-bert

Is rewiring french slang for taking a nap?


17 posted on 10/27/2006 10:20:10 PM PDT by MediaMole (9/11 - We have already forgotten.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Ok boys dummy up!,dummy up!. here come the arabs...Bet it has major structural issues that have not come to light as of yet.


18 posted on 10/27/2006 10:32:34 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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