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LOL! I asked for information that backed your CONCLUSION, and you haven't given it.

Enough trying to get you to understand the point. Apparently your tunnel vision doesn't allow it.

I have made the point clearly. You continue to argue the data (from the NY Times? LOL!), and refuse to defend your highly faulty conclusion based on that data.

Have a good day, mad...........and try not to be mad that we're finally making some progress on this issue......

I'm off now to make some telephone calls for Ohio candidates who have as a high priority, illegal immigration.

I'm going to do my best to get conservative candidates in our Congress who will keep at this huge problem and get some solutions.

You may continue to argue on the Internet about it............I'm going to DO something about it. Good day.

I gave you only a few data points that prove W didn't want a fence. His entire approach is to keep them coming and turn them into citizens. Apparently you cannot recognize data when you see it.

Ah so a direct quote from the NYT is not acceptable to you? Many of those quotes were directly from the White House and news conferences.

You are completely deluded if you think this last bill is progress. The first step is to turn off the magnet. NO one in Washington - except maybe Tancredo - is even talking about that. How many terrorists got in while W ignored secure borders. All of the money spent in Iraq could of sealed both of our borders tightly and not cost 2,000 lives. Oh yea I forgot "He tried to kill my dad."

Sorry you think I am offensive. The most offensive thing to me is a politician that betrays the trust of the public. Words are just words, actions matter. The man you have chosen as your hero is short on results based upon his actions.