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To: ohioWfan
I gave you only a few data points that prove W didn't want a fence. His entire approach is to keep them coming and turn them into citizens. Apparently you cannot recognize data when you see it.

Ah so a direct quote from the NYT is not acceptable to you? Many of those quotes were directly from the White House and news conferences.

You are completely deluded if you think this last bill is progress. The first step is to turn off the magnet. NO one in Washington - except maybe Tancredo - is even talking about that. How many terrorists got in while W ignored secure borders. All of the money spent in Iraq could of sealed both of our borders tightly and not cost 2,000 lives. Oh yea I forgot "He tried to kill my dad."

Sorry you think I am offensive. The most offensive thing to me is a politician that betrays the trust of the public. Words are just words, actions matter. The man you have chosen as your hero is short on results based upon his actions.

237 posted on 10/28/2006 6:41:15 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: mad_as_he$$
I don't find you offensive. I just believe you are wrong.

The difference between you and me is that I believe President Bush is an honest man, and you believe he is a liar, and for you, that colors everything he does.

But until you can prove that he wasn't convinced by the Republicans in Congress to get the fence first, and that this whole bill signing was nothing but the political deceit of a dishonest man, you are at a dead end here.

As for the 'progress'......you may think anything you want. But when the fence is under construction, you'll have to move your perpetually moving goalposts even further. I have no doubt that it's exactly what you'll do, because admitting President Bush did something right is something you'll most likely never be able to do.....

239 posted on 10/28/2006 12:29:34 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Cut and Run Murtha Conservatives are gonna sit out this election. Patriots aren't!!)
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