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Australian (muslim) cleric in dress furore
BBC News ^ | 10/26/2006

Posted on 10/26/2006 2:15:12 AM PDT by Republicain

Australia's most senior Muslim cleric has prompted an uproar by saying that some women are attracting sexual assault by the way they dress.

Sheikh Taj el-Din al-Hilali said women who did not wear a hijab (head dress) were like "uncovered meat".

But he has now apologised for any offence caused by his comments, The Australian newspaper reports.

Leading Muslim women condemned the comments and PM John Howard said the remarks were "appalling".

"The idea that women are to blame for rapes is preposterous," Mr Howard told reporters.

"I unreservedly apologise to any woman who is offended by my comments," Sheikh Hilali said in a statement on Thursday.

"I had only intended to protect women's honour, something lost in The Australian presentation of my talk."

A spokesman for Sheikh Hilali earlier said the quote had been taken out of context and referred not to sexual assault, but to sexual infidelity.

The sermon was targeted against men and women who engaged in extra-marital sex and did so through alluring types of clothes, he said.

Ramadan sermon

Sheikh Hilali's critics have previously accused him of praising suicide bombers and claiming the attacks in the United States on 11 September 2001 were "God's work against oppressors".

The cleric's latest comments came in a sermon delivered to some 500 worshippers in Sydney last month.

"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside... and the cats come and eat it... whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat?" he asked.

The uncovered meat is the problem, he went on to say.

"If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred," he added.

Sheikh Hilali also condemned women who swayed suggestively and wore make-up, implying they attracted sexual assault.

"Then you get a judge without mercy... and gives you 65 years," he added.

High-profile case

The BBC's Nick Bryant in Sydney says the comments are seen as particularly insensitive because Sydney was the scene six years ago of a series of gang rapes committed by a group of Lebanese Australians, who received long prison sentences.

Finance Minister Peter Costello called on Muslims to condemn the speech.

"If you have a significant religious leader like this preaching to a flock in a situation where we've had gang rapes, in a way that seems to make it justifiable, then people that listen to that kind of comment can get the wrong idea," he said.

"They can actually think that it's not as bad as it is."

A number of leading Muslim women have already spoken out against the sermon, describing it as repulsive and offensive.

Federal Sex Discrimination Commissioner Pru Goward said the comments could be an incitement to crime.

"Young Muslim men who now rape women can cite this in court, can quote this man... their leader in court," she told Australian media.

She added that the cleric should be deported for inciting rape.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; islam

1 posted on 10/26/2006 2:15:13 AM PDT by Republicain
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To: Republicain

While people should not dress or act sluttily, that should not be validation for their being assaulted. Have these people not heard of restraint?


2 posted on 10/26/2006 2:19:51 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( The r/l thing is Japanese, not pan-Asian, and, in any case, making a mockery of it is rude.)
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To: Republicain; Aussie Dasher; naturalman1975

At least Australians seem to be in an uproar.


3 posted on 10/26/2006 2:21:28 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( The r/l thing is Japanese, not pan-Asian, and, in any case, making a mockery of it is rude.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Looks like he's saying that Muslim men can not control themselves...I agree.


4 posted on 10/26/2006 2:31:59 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: Republicain

"I unreservedly apologise to any woman who is offended by.... having stoned them to death for....


5 posted on 10/26/2006 2:39:25 AM PDT by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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To: Republicain

Why do all the "senior Muslim cleric" look like pigs?


6 posted on 10/26/2006 2:40:15 AM PDT by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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To: Republicain

ping


7 posted on 10/26/2006 2:41:48 AM PDT by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: observer5

He looks like dead meat to me, so should we then kill him??
Asinine muslims.


8 posted on 10/26/2006 3:11:56 AM PDT by Sherri-D (~~It seemed like a good idea at the time~~)
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To: Republicain
>"Sheikh Taj el-Din al-Hilali said women who did not wear a hijab (head dress) were like "uncovered meat"."

More proof of just how "superior" is-slime law and culture is to civilized society!

Moldy moe (Pigs be inseminating her) would be so proud, that his advanced society is still living in the stone age!

9 posted on 10/26/2006 3:23:18 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (If we don't oil the drive shaft once a week, Melmacs orbit will start to squeek.)
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To: Republicain

These b@stards and their tribe of fellow Mozzies should have their organs sutured to their thighs, and then forced to run.


10 posted on 10/26/2006 3:27:17 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Republicain

So, do Muslims invite attack by looking Muslim?


11 posted on 10/26/2006 3:36:27 AM PDT by airborne (If Democrats win in November, America will suffer.)
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To: Republicain

This is clearly a clash of cultures. Given the nature of the Muslim upbringing (repressed sexuality), the nature of Islam (attitude toward infidels), and the feminization of western culture, it is understandable that immodest western women would fall victim. But few progressive countries believe in acculturation.


12 posted on 10/26/2006 3:54:22 AM PDT by olezip
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To: Republicain
"I unreservedly apologise to any woman who is offended by my comments," Sheikh Hilali said in a statement on Thursday."

The old non-apology apology.

He should therefore add, "To those who weren't offended, I stand by my comments."

13 posted on 10/26/2006 5:36:57 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Republicain

I love the smell of Islam in the morning. It smells like an imaginary planet filled with persons of unbelievable joy, beauty, thought, and enlightenment.

Alright ..... who slipped fifty micrograms of lysergic in my coffee. Not funny ......


14 posted on 10/26/2006 6:02:49 AM PDT by anechoicroom.blogspot.com
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To: Republicain
I'm re-posting this from a post I made on this topic with a different news article.

I already figured out part of what's wrong with Islam. Before Mohammed started saying he got 'the word' from allah AFTER the fact, his hallucinations were quite innocuous. It wasn't until he got so conceited that he thought everything he did or said or thought or wanted to do was 'okay by allah' (and he had the prophetic words to prove it), that he went off the deep end.

Unfortunately Mohammed thought he was above reproach and he forced this devotion on his followers by claiming that "gabriel" spoke directly to him, therefore anything he (Moham) said was 'writ in stone' and could not be changed. Not only that, but that the only way to "really understand" Mohammedanism is to read it in Arabic. Translations "miss" something in the translation. (The TRUTH is that translations tell the truth about Mohammed and the one thing he hated more than anything else was to be confronted with truth. He even gave his followers permission to lie so that they didn't have to be confronted with the truth.)

BUT IT IS ALL A LIE. A lie concocted to appease his own guilty conscience and to allow himself and all men who are in league with him to act like barbarians while the remainder of the world becomes civilized.

Someone needs to tear the Koran into two sections. The "true" section prior to his first "after the fact" proclamation from allah giving him permission to act as an animal or worse than an animal. And the "false" section starting at his first "after the fact" permission granted from allah to cover up his uncouth, uncivilized, demented behavior.

ONLY THEN will there be any chance of a "moderate Mohammedanism" to coexist with the remainder of "civilized" (such as we are) societies.

15 posted on 10/27/2006 4:07:20 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Mohammed Lied; Jesus Died (For Your Sins) and Rose Again.)
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