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Who Really Sailed The Ocean Blue In 1492
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 10-18-2006 | Lisa Abend - Geoff Pingree

Posted on 10/18/2006 6:07:39 PM PDT by blam

Who really sailed the ocean blue in 1492?

Spanish scholars are on a mission to demystify Christopher Columbus's life, long shrouded in a veil of mythic heroism.

By Lisa Abend and Geoff Pingree | Correspondents of The Christian Science Monitor

MADRID – Genovese nobleman or Catalan pirate? Adventurous explorer or greedy tyrant? What if the Italian gentleman who discovered America was in fact a brutal torturer and slave owner? And what if he wasn't even Italian? Schoolchildren may learn about a daring hero who proved the Earth wasn't flat, but because his biography is pocked with holes, Christopher Columbus is a figure around whom elaborate theories and enigmatic rumors have long circulated. This year, the 500th anniversary of his death, two Spanish scholars are working to clear up some of the mysteries.

José Antonio Lorente, a geneticist at the University of Granada, is attempting to resolve one of the greatest enigmas - the question of Columbus's origins. In 1927, Peruvian historian Luis Ulloa Cisneros claimed Columbus was from Catalonia - in what is today northwestern Spain - rather than from the Italian port city of Genoa.

Since then, theories have proliferated, some suggesting that Columbus was a Catalan nobleman who rebelled against King Ferdinand's father, King John II, by engaging in piracy on behalf of the French, and then hid his origins to win favor with the son. Others maintain that he was the illegitimate child of Prince Carlos de Viana, a Majorcan nobleman related to Ferdinand and Isabella. Still others suggest that Columbus was a Jew, whose family fled to Genoa to escape persecution.

A historian at the University of Seville asked Mr. Lorente (who had previously used genetic testing to determine that bones in the Cathedral of Seville belonged to Columbus's own illegitimate son), to help resolve. .

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KEYWORDS: 1492; ageofsail; america; columbus; columbusday; discoverer; explorer; godsgravesglyphs
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To: blam

Looks to me like they just want to muddy the water and trash Columbus.


21 posted on 10/18/2006 7:03:52 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Ruddles

Christopher ColumBUSH


22 posted on 10/18/2006 7:09:05 PM PDT by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: goodnesswins

HA! Brass Fig Newton to goodnesswins, Double Secret Fig Newton to ElCid, and remember my people:

"Cuidensen mi gente...requerden que !Ponce es Ponce..lo Demas es Parking!"*


23 posted on 10/18/2006 7:15:12 PM PDT by Ruddles
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To: All

I hope the folks who are driving all this do not mind that I don't care if he was an Italian, a Spaniard, or a Martian for that matter. I am rather more interested in what he accomplished, and how he effected history.


24 posted on 10/18/2006 7:23:07 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: Right Brother
At least he hasn't been labeled as gay.....

Actually he was, in all the pictures I've seen he is wearing tights.

25 posted on 10/18/2006 7:24:43 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: Lurking in Kansas
At least he hasn't been labeled as gay.....

Actually he was, in all the pictures I've seen he is wearing tights.

PS: ... and a floppy hat with feathers in it and a frilly shirt.

26 posted on 10/18/2006 7:27:45 PM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here… move on.)
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To: All
Hit it now!

27 posted on 10/18/2006 7:28:37 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Get right with God....eternity is a long time.....)
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To: blam
Who Really Sailed The Ocean Blue In 1492?

Doctor Brown, in his slightly modified DeLorean.


28 posted on 10/18/2006 7:29:26 PM PDT by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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To: Robwin

Martian? I don't think anyone is suggesting that Christopher Columbus was Martian, although there's a strong body of evidence linking Columbus with the Red Planet, in particular E.E."Doc" Smtih who popularized the idea of Christopher Columbus as a Martian Aboriginal in his "Lensman" series of pulp fiction novels. Also look into a less-strong but almost equally compelling body of evidence in the works of Richard Hoaglund, casting Christopher Columbus as a Hyperdimensional Fraud of the first order, a stalking horse for the Isis Society and Madame Blavatsky's Wicked Pack of Cards.


29 posted on 10/18/2006 7:34:51 PM PDT by Ruddles
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To: Boiler Plate

And funny BP should mention the DeLorean, but Columbus was also remotely linked with the Bricklin car in a centuries-spanning conspiracy involving the Moravian Church and certain Easter Island operatives working for the Vatican who concealed evidence linking Jesus with Earl Scheib, who will paint any car for 99 dollars.


30 posted on 10/18/2006 7:39:49 PM PDT by Ruddles
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To: Ruddles

99 Bucks! Not here in DC. He's up to $229. Wellat least it's still any, car any time. Must be part of the Easter Bunny conspiracy, where they take egg dye from the rich folk in DC and give it to poor folk else where for votes.


31 posted on 10/18/2006 8:08:44 PM PDT by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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To: blam

"What if the Italian gentleman who discovered America was in fact a brutal torturer and slave owner? And what if he wasn't even Italian?"

He wasn't Italian.

He was from the city-state of Genoa. Italy did not exist as a country in 1492.


32 posted on 10/18/2006 9:19:10 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (...ON 11/7, YOU ARE EITHER WITH US, OR WITH THE DEMOCRATS...)
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To: satchmodog9

Thanks, but I know even on Fr you find PC monsters...LOL


33 posted on 10/18/2006 11:25:47 PM PDT by Repub4bush (Tony is the Best Press Secretary Ever!!!!! (Sorry Ari, I liked you too, but you ain't Tony!))
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To: Boiler Plate

Easter Island egg dye always made me sneeze "Aku-Aku". A Thor subject I know, but just couldn't Paas it up. Also, got Earl Scheib confused with Mike Davinci, who will paint any supper for 30 pieces of silver.


34 posted on 10/19/2006 4:18:34 AM PDT by Ruddles
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To: Repub4bush

sad, isn't it?


35 posted on 10/19/2006 5:21:28 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: blam

And of course it was Bush's fault he sailed at all.


36 posted on 10/19/2006 5:22:54 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: Right Brother
"At least he hasn't been labeled as gay....."

To do so would be redundant. It's now generally accepted that anyone famous and dead was gay.

Ya gotta keep up with these things...
37 posted on 10/19/2006 5:27:49 AM PDT by LIConFem (Just opened a new seafood restaurant in Great Britain, called "Squid Pro Quid")
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To: Ruddles

Mike Davinci, who will paint any supper for 30 pieces of silver.

What a bargin! Wasn't he a roady for Judas Kiss?


38 posted on 10/19/2006 7:13:04 AM PDT by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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To: blam
Spanish scholars are on a mission to demystify Christopher Columbus's life, long shrouded in a veil of mythic heroism

There is good scholarship to show that Christopher Columbus
left Spain on the day before all Jews were driven out the Spain.

In addition some have shown that his mother was a Jew.


39 posted on 10/19/2006 9:58:14 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 144:1 Praise be to YHvH, my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.)
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To: Democrap
St Nicolas, whose name was bastardized over the centuries (Santa Nicolus) was ITALIAN! He never visited Camodia since it were SIAM! Kerry was partnered with El Diablo!

AlGore invented the anal supposition for speaking out his bung hole!

40 posted on 10/19/2006 10:27:50 AM PDT by Young Werther
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