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Can you imagine someone you commit an unspeakable crime against, such as murdering his entire family coming to your trial and offering himself to die in the electric chair so you could go free?

'Course, it wouldn't be such a big deal for the stand-in, would it? I mean, he isn't really going to die, and he gets to be in charge of things a few days after his supposed "sacrifice."

'Course, it wouldn't be such a big deal for the stand-in, would it? I mean, he isn't really going to die, and he gets to be in charge of things a few days after his supposed "sacrifice."

So according to you God and Jesus Christ are both liars, and Jesus never really died at all.

And He "gets to be in charge of things"???
Do you know Who you're talking about?

You sound like you resent the fact that He is God.

I wonder where that comes from?

"During the Second World War, in the Niepokalanów friary, Kolbe provided shelter to refugees from Greater Poland, including 2,000 Jews. He was also active as a radio amateur, with Polish call letters SP3RN, vilifying Nazi activities through his reports. On February 17, 1941, he was arrested by the German Gestapo and imprisoned in the Pawiak prison, and, on May 25, was transferred to Auschwitz I as prisoner #16670.

In July 1941, a man from Kolbe's bunker had vanished, prompting Karl Fritzsch, the Lagerführer, to pick 10 men from the same bunker to be starved to death in the notorious torture block, Block 11, in order to deter further escape attempts. (The man who had disappeared was later found drowned in the camp latrine.) One of the selected men, Franciszek Gajowniczek, cried out, lamenting his family, and Kolbe volunteered to take his place.

After two weeks of starvation, only four of the ten men were still alive, including Kolbe. The cells were needed, and Kolbe and the other three were executed with an injection of carbolic acid in the left arm."

Yup. This guy really was gunning to be in charge of things.
Maximilian Kolbe

Go back to trolling prayer threads with some of your buddies.

I mean, he isn't really going to die...

Junner... Junner! <sigh>

Repeating THIS old message??

Genesis 3:1

Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, `You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?"

You KNOW what the Book says, so you must have inside knowledge about stuff that the rest of us are not privy to:

NIV Matthew 27:50
   And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit.

NIV Mark 15:37
   With a loud cry, Jesus breathed his last.

NIV Luke 23:46
   Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last.

NIV John 19:30-37
30. When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
31. Now it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a special Sabbath. Because the Jews did not want the bodies left on the crosses during the Sabbath, they asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies taken down.
32. The soldiers therefore came and broke the legs of the first man who had been crucified with Jesus, and then those of the other.
33. But when they came to Jesus and found that he was already dead, they did not break his legs.
34. Instead, one of the soldiers pierced Jesus' side with a spear, bringing a sudden flow of blood and water.
35. The man who saw it has given testimony, and his testimony is true. He knows that he tells the truth, and he testifies so that you also may believe.
36. These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled: "Not one of his bones will be broken,"
37. and, as another scripture says, "They will look on the one they have pierced."

Help us out a bit; can you?