To: hripka
From the Treaty of Tripoli, which was ratified by the United States on 1797-06-10:
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
402 posted on
10/21/2006 4:25:53 AM PDT by
Junior
(Losing faith in humanity one person at a time.)
To: Junior
Treaty of Tripoli,You REALLY need to GOOGLE® this and see the truth about what you've posted here.
416 posted on
10/21/2006 7:06:45 AM PDT by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Junior
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; Yes, of course, we have a First Amendment. Study where the Founders got their ideas. They made MANY quotes from the Bible in their writings. The idea of man having unalienable rights is derived from a belief in God. See the Declaration of Independence, paragraph 2. Paragraph 1 is also very interesting.
If you are just the end result of a long series of random events, what rights are you claiming? What rights CAN you claim? What makes your random event so special?
"Once man's connection to the divine is denied, you can reason yourself from here to anywhere." from Ann Coulter, "Godless", pg. 277.
That there is order in the universe is a fact so basic, and the idea of 'random self-organization' is so flawed, there HAS to be an intelligence behind all of it.
430 posted on
10/21/2006 8:41:43 AM PDT by
hripka
(There are a lot of smart people out there in FReeperLand)
To: Junior
This Treaty of Tripoli was written by a diplomat, so what the Mussulmen required a treaty with a disclaimer about the US being 'in any sense' a Christian nation. So what, you think it a new thing to make 'peace' treaties out side of the name of Christ?
http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/treaty_tripoli.html "Authored by American diplomat Joel Barlow in 1796, the following treaty was sent to the floor of the Senate, June 7, 1797, where it was read aloud in its entirety and unanimously approved. John Adams, having seen the treaty, signed it and proudly proclaimed it to the Nation."
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