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To: Fester Chugabrew
You have in no way shown intelligent design to be a religious concept or process.

One, it requires a designer, and unless you go in with the Raelians, that means a supernatural designer. Supernatural means outside of the realm of the natural sciences, which is what we're discussing.

Two, the statements of the founders of your movement, explicitly stating that the "designer" is the Christian god, and the movement is meant as a Christian evangelical tool.

BTW, for a god to guide evolution would be pretty easy. For a god to set up such a complicated process billions of years ago knowing it would result in exactly as it is now is pretty awesome. Why do you limit the powers of your god so?

Or do you consider your posts to be products of a religious concept?

I think it would be great if the Theory of Evolution (Natural Selection) were to be disproved in my lifetime and replaced by another theory. It is interesting to be alive during scientific advancements that big. Unlike you, I have no stake in this other than the advancement of science.

499 posted on 10/16/2006 12:43:21 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
One, it requires a designer, and unless you go in with the Raelians, that means a supernatural designer.

Is there something inherently religious about designers? I know a good many of them, and they don't appear to be supernatural in any way. Science does not have a means of discerning the difference between natural and supernatural in the first place, so your second assertion is absurd.

Two, the statements of the founders of your movement . . .

You flatter me in suggesting the movement is mine. As I read the documents to which you refer I see no reference either to a Christian God or to any efforts at evangelizing the world through the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Your zeal in painting intelligent design as an inherently Christian concept is misguided. Yes, the idea of intelligent design is in accord with Christian teaching, but it is certainly not coterminous with it.

Why do you limit the powers of your god so?

Others have said the same thing and I cannot help but wonder: Isn't it rather bass-ackwards to suggest it is more difficult to create a functioning universe over billions of years as opposed to six literal days?

Unlike you, I have no stake in this other than the advancement of science.

It would be better if your temerity extended to confessing your god openly rather than hiding behind semantics and federal law.

505 posted on 10/16/2006 1:09:19 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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