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To: Fester Chugabrew

Assertion? LOL

Sorry, it's a fact, not an assertion, ID is not was not and never will be scientific.

It is nonfalsifiable.

Prove or disprove that God exists, you can't, therefore it is nonfalsifiable.

God=Intelligent Designer, whether you care to openly admit it or not, and since the existence of God is not falsifiable, or nonfalsifiable, the entire concept is unscientific.

Discuss ID in classrooms, it's fine with me, just don't do it in a science classroom, because it's not science.

Discuss in a religious studies course, philosophy class, shoot, discuss it in a theology course, fine with me, but it does not belong in a science class, ever.

ID and evolution were not even a concept when our country was founded, so to assume what our founding fathers would think, is the heighth of arrogance.

I am a constitutionalist, not a conservative, if that upsets you, so be it, but our founding fathers were liberals, in the classic sense, not conservatives.


1,003 posted on 10/19/2006 9:13:55 PM PDT by Jaguarbhzrd
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To: Jaguarbhzrd
If falsification was the be-all and end-all of science you might have a point. As it stands, however, falsification cannot be tested as a scientifically valid approach to science. It is simply one of the many logical tools we have at our disposal as we intelligently explore an intelligible universe. ID is hypothetically falsifiable through the disintegration of all particle matter into chaos so that nothing is intelligible. Evolution in the wide sense is simply an interpretation of evidence squeezed into preconceived notions.

And please don't rattle my chain as if you are someone who respects the Constitution, or even science. If you were you would not be championing your pet philosophy through the application of the legal system in order to give it an exclusive hearing in public school science rooms.

1,005 posted on 10/19/2006 9:34:50 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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