Keep Darwin's 'lies' out of Polish schools: education official

AFP via Yahoo! News ^ | October 14, 2006

[satchmodog9]

FR will show the world the face it chooses to show the world.

It's called Mooning.

[tomzz]

Everything else being equal, that will put Poland 50 years ahead of the rest of Europe in one generation.

[freedumb2003]

So you believe all life came from single cell via undirected means and that this has been established beyond all argument?

Astounding! You have been able to completely misconstrue TToE in one brief sentence. Most CR/IDers take several posts to hit such a level of misunderstanding.

[freedumb2003]

Everything else being equal, that will put Poland 50 years ahead of the rest of Europe in one generation.

It puts them approximately equal in philosophy and theology. In science they will be behind 50-100 years, just on step ahead of us (since their anti-science infection didn't start as early as ours).

[freedumb2003]

You have NO evidence that man "evolved" from an ape or any other animal,

Billions of fossils, observed micro-evolution, thousands of scientists and millions of science hours be damned.

Do you have an alternative scientific theory to explain the evidence?

[cookcounty]

"Sad, Poland historically had some of the best science education in Europe."

Still do. Obviously they possess a capacity to doubt, unlike the Dawkin's Darwiniacs.

[b_sharp]

Placemarker Placemarker Placemarker Placemarker Placemarker

[thomaswest]

Re 115: I don't know WHO your god is but my God doesn't have YOUR limitations or FINITE knowledge. Perhaps you should investigate the Judeo Christian God.

Interesting that YOU get so huffy. And accuse everyone else of being "nasty". And then claim that "intelligent design" is about science and not about religion and your particular god!!

What we always suspected about you. You just post to say that "my god is bigger, better, wiser than your god".

You are not interested in how the natural world works--science--you are missionarizing for "it's all about me" and "my god".

Noted.

[Coyoteman]

Obviously they possess a capacity to doubt, unlike the Dawkin's Darwiniacs.

Science is built up in small increments, a few facts here, a test of a hypothesis there...

150 years and tens of thousands of scientists in multiple disciplines have produced a huge mass of facts and a well tested and well supported theory--the theory of evolution.

The doubt we are seeing comes in from outside of science, from believers in a particular narrow view of scripture.

Unfortunately, all they have is doubt. They have no evidence or alternative theories. These threads document that.

[Revolting cat!]

RE # 82.

Yeah, "a dozen or more court decisions". Lawyers and judges as the modern priests and arbiters of the ultimate truth. Convinced yet? Pity the secular evomoonies and their black robed gods.

[freedumb2003]

Obviously they possess a capacity to doubt, unlike the Dawkin's Darwiniacs.

Next up: Doubt about that silly "physics" thing. And "chemistry." Oh, and lets not forget that evil "astronomy."

Of course, this so-called "doubt" has a scientific basis, right?

[cookcounty]

"Oh come on, you could drive a truck through evolution's holes.

Be my guest. Take your best shot. Your Nobel Prize awaits."

Well, hardly. The Nobel Committee has only evolutionists on board. It would be like submitting your essay on "Why There is No God" to the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association for publication. Ain't gonna happen.

[freedumb2003]

Lawyers and judges as the modern priests and arbiters of the ultimate truth. Convinced yet? Pity the secular evomoonies and their black robed gods.

As long as the courts keep religion out of the public schoolroom as an alternative to science (it is OK as part of philosophy) and they insist that science be taught, then they are doing their duty in upholding the Constitution.

[Revolting cat!]

"We are not going to withdraw (Darwin's theory) from the school books, but we should start to discuss it."

Key thought in the article above. Key thought from the evomoonies?

"There is nothing to discuss, the courts have said so!"

[A. Pole]

The DI has lost every battle it's been in. They lost in the courts in Pennsylvania. They lost in elections in Kansas and Penna. They lost in Michigan and Ohio in the Board of Education.

It means that hard line Darwinists win political and legal game. But this is not science. What if some day a US court or legislature defines number PI as 3.14 exactly or two bearded man to be wife and husband? Oh wait it already has happened.

The falsehood of Darwinism is the claim that the universe is a dead purposeless machine ruled by chance. Darwinian beliefs in random mutations followed by natural selection were product of XIX century mindset LONG BEFORE discovery of genes and DNA.

The calculations show that the complexity of life cannot be accounted by so crude and slow mechanism. Evolution might be a fact but Darwin was not closer to truth than Lamarck. We need new unbiased approach.

[freedumb2003]

Well, hardly. The Nobel Committee has only evolutionists on board.

The Evolutionists Conspiracy continues!! Those darned Evolutionists! Everytime you turn to a scientific body, THERE THEY ARE.

[thomaswest]

Interesting, since some of the major backers of the intelligent design types at the Discovery Institute, such as Jonathan Wells, are in fact Moonies, i.e., followers of the Rev. Moon. Who has announced himself as the Messiah.

The Moonie backing of ID is one reason why the ID propaganda has not gained acceptance in most Christian churches.

[Atlantic Bridge]

Idiots indeed. But really dangerous, as we can see.

I doubt that they are dangerous. There are more than enough clarified and well educated people in your country to avoid that Poland will turn into a "Christian Taliban regime".

[freedumb2003]

What if some day a US court or legislature defines number PI as 3.14 exactly or two bearded man to be wife and husband? Oh wait it already has happened.

Before I take on the rest of your post, I need to see where any court defined PI as 3.14 exactly (the scientific part of your rant).

[Revolting cat!]

The courts times 10,000. Good luck on taking advice on when it's safe to cross the street.