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Americans are playing poker online? Oh, the humanity!
Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | 10/13/06 | Las Vegas Review-Journal

Posted on 10/13/2006 5:03:36 PM PDT by KDD

EDITORIAL: Internet gambling 'ban'

Americans are playing poker online? Oh, the humanity!

Of the myriad policy crises churning on the horizon -- entitlement insolvency, illegal immigration and runaway federal spending among them -- congressional Republicans chose to spend the little political capital they have left on an Internet gambling ban.

With brick-and-mortar casinos in nearly every state and card games breaking into network television, millions of moralists found it unbearable that Americans were wagering about $6 billion per year on the Web. That their neighbors might be playing poker or placing sports bets from the comfort of their desk chairs demanded federal intervention. "Ban it!" they cried. "Misguided citizens will lose their homes! Their children will starve! Families will be destroyed!"

Never mind the folly of legislating leisure. (That Prohibition thing was a rousing success, wasn't it? And certainly, no sports wagering takes place outside of Nevada.) Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., was determined to please his base with a new law before November's election, no matter how flawed or misguided it might be.

The cause was so preposterous it couldn't win passage as a stand-alone bill. Sen. Frist first tried to attach the Internet gambling ban to a defense appropriations bill. No luck. So he slipped it into port security legislation that passed the House and Senate early Saturday. A Bush administration official indicated the president plans to sign the bill into law.

And so no children will be forced into homelessness, their parents now prohibited from using personal checks, credit cards or electronic fund transfers to pay off Internet bets placed with online casinos and sports books. The costly, irresistible temptation of playing games of chance on personal computers has been eradicated. Right?

Wrong. Not only did Sen. Frist have to lard up the ports bill to win passage for his pet project, he included enough exemptions to rival the IRS tax code.

The bill permits Web-based betting on horse racing and for state lotteries. It also allows state-licensed casinos, once authorized within their jurisdiction, to construct Web sites with online poker and casino-style gaming. And these casinos would be allowed to provide links to other states and countries where gambling is legal.

So rather than deliver a "ban," Sen. Frist merely cut off the American market from online gambling sites based in Britain and the Caribbean. Like most heavy-handed regulations, this "ban" is really just thinly veiled protectionism.

"In order to get this bill passed, they (Republicans) sold their souls. They gave so many exceptions that it's now a wide-open area," attorney Tony Cabot, editor of the Internet Gambling Report and co-editor of the Gaming Law Review, told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

This Internet gambling "ban" is nothing close to a ban at all -- and that's a good thing. It's foolish to think the Internet gambling genie can be stuffed back into its bottle. Technology is driving the evolution of the gaming industry, so it makes perfect sense that regulated American companies should be allowed to conduct business with their millions of customers through the World Wide Web.

The bill could bring some short-term pain to MGM Mirage and Harrah's Entertainment, which use Internet poker sites to place some entrants in their own poker tournaments. But they'll figure out how to rebuild their qualification networks. The opportunities now available to Nevada gaming companies are staggering in their scope.

"The casino lobbyists in Washington, D.C., thought this was a pretty good deal. It's actually better than that," Mr. Cabot said. "It really opens up the field. It knocks out the offshore companies, and leaves the legal licensees open to take their positions."

It remains to be seen, however, whether the American conservatives who demanded this legislation will think it's a good deal. More likely, they'll realize sometime soon that they've been taken by a sucker bet.


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: forthechildren
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To: KDD
Anyone else tired of GOP pandering to people like FReepers?
61 posted on 10/13/2006 7:12:36 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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To: unspun

The last thing I think the GOP has done is pander to conservatives.


62 posted on 10/13/2006 7:16:22 PM PDT by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: frogjerk

Party (and others) overreacted. I told Party as much. Man, I hate losing that site. I'm retired military and that was my bread and butter :-(

I think the only thing that is affected is the method of funding. Firepay is US based so they are crushed but this, but Neteller (and others) are overseas based and they say it has no effect on them.

So now I have to move to new sites and learn the ins and outs there. Oh well, life is still good.


63 posted on 10/13/2006 7:17:06 PM PDT by fnord (dachshunds with erections can't climb stairs)
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To: fnord

You're right, a lot of it is talk, but between the protest votes against this and those who simply don't vote at all it can add up, but...

Probably fairly insignificant considering how much more opportunity Republicans have to do stupid stuff before the Election.


64 posted on 10/13/2006 7:18:18 PM PDT by UncleJeff
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To: UncleJeff

ha, yeah hard telling what else they have up their sleeves.

this could tip a few close races though, and I dread seeing the Dims in power. things are bad enough now.


65 posted on 10/13/2006 7:25:14 PM PDT by fnord (dachshunds with erections can't climb stairs)
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To: fnord
The old adage "actions have consequences" apply to most every endeavor...As it should.
66 posted on 10/13/2006 7:30:41 PM PDT by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: Phantom Lord; frogjerk

this 2+2 forum post has links to most of the major sites with their statements concerning this legislation:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=7509074&an=0&page=0#Post7509074


67 posted on 10/13/2006 7:34:00 PM PDT by fnord (dachshunds with erections can't climb stairs)
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To: KDD

"unintended consequences" are even worse, and more certain


68 posted on 10/13/2006 7:35:03 PM PDT by fnord (dachshunds with erections can't climb stairs)
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To: fnord
"unintended consequences" are even worse, and more certain

Indeed.

69 posted on 10/13/2006 7:36:47 PM PDT by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: Jorge
The Bible tells us that God Himself gives govt the authority to enforce moral codes. Probably because if left to the individual it would lead to anarchy and the disintegration of society.

This Country was founded on the principle that government authority comes from the people. Individuals do have control of the government by their votes. It sounds like the form of government laid out in the U.S. Constitution is not to your liking. Maybe the taliban style of enforcing morality is more your style?

70 posted on 10/13/2006 7:40:22 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: april15Bendovr
Most of the money is going to gambling websites outside our country. Who knows where the money is going?

I don't give a rat's ass if it isn't mine.

72 posted on 10/13/2006 7:44:24 PM PDT by wireman
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To: KDD

bttt


73 posted on 10/13/2006 7:47:18 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: Prokopton

I'm waiting to see what happens when we get around to the First Commandment.


74 posted on 10/13/2006 7:48:01 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: the beholder

Yeah...but you don't see any from China.

That is who the rest of the free world online poker players are comparing American internet users with.


75 posted on 10/13/2006 7:48:20 PM PDT by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: Prokopton
It sounds like the form of government laid out in the U.S. Constitution is not to your liking. Maybe the taliban style of enforcing morality is more your style?

So you think the Taliban resembles Christian morality?

Think again.

I never said a word about not liking the framework of our govt.

I simply made a reference to the Bible stating that God has given authority to world govts to enforce laws.

If you have a problem with God then that is between you and Him.

76 posted on 10/13/2006 7:53:16 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: UncleJeff

I like to gamble online as well...I am so pissed off about this HOW DARE THEY DICTATE HOW I CHOOSE to spend my money. I'm really, really mad UncleJeff. This is not why I voted for Republicans, and I am not afraid to say it.


77 posted on 10/13/2006 7:53:54 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy

It's just such a stupid move, politically. Who was clamoring for this so much that Frist had to first try to sneak it through attached to a Defense Bill and, when that failed, attach it to the Port Security Bill??

I still think it was his parting gift to the religious Right in exchange for support for his (doomed) Presidential bid.


78 posted on 10/13/2006 8:04:32 PM PDT by UncleJeff
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To: Jorge
I simply made a reference to the Bible stating that God has given authority to world govts to enforce laws.

That would make Robert Mugabe righteous, and the patriots of the American Revolution acting against God. When scriptures get used as platitudes things get weird.

79 posted on 10/13/2006 8:06:37 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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I don't gamble at all
It's not your place to tell me that I shouldn't gamble online if I want to.
80 posted on 10/13/2006 8:10:07 PM PDT by firewalk
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