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[pissant]

After reading the main article, see post 198 for a great wrapup.

[penelopesire]

Thank you SOOOO much for getting this written! My morning has been a bit hectic and I am terrible at computer stuff...lol

One thing you might add is the bombshell bit that MP5SD dug up in post #187!!

Here it is:

Check out http://billandsteve.com/index.asp

This is Bill Pinyon and his "partner" Steven Wojcik.

Steven is employed by Badpuppy AND is the Vice President of Public Policy for the National Business Group on Health.

He has testified numerous times before the House Ways and Means Committee. Mark Foley is a member of that committee.

Interesting that they live just outside Mark Foley's congessional district.

FWIW - SOFTECSys is also the host of 365GAY.com

[AmeriBrit]

Thank you for the ping! :>)))))

[Grampa Dave]

"----Democrats have to answer questions about what they knew."

I can't wait until the gay predators on the staffs of Pelosi, Boxer, Finestein, Woolsey and other rats from California have the light of truth shined on them. Then we can demand the resignation of every rat congressit with criminal gay predators on their staff.

Or we get to see pictures of these gay Predator maggot staffers in Thailand or Mexico to have predatory sex with kids under the age 12.

Apparently people out here in fruit and nut land are looking for photos of Pelosi with a flaming gay maggot during one of SF's Gay Happiness/Pride Day parades.

I'm sure that someone can find her defending homosexuals when they wanted to become boy scout predators.

[pissant]

Tell us what you really think. LOL

[SweetCaroline]

I sent it to O'Reily, lets see what he does with it.

[AmeriBrit]

:>))))) Thank you!

[Grampa Dave]

The many of the maggots who march during GaY Pride day out in Gay Frisco are probably on the staffs of the local rat congressional its and Boxer and Finestein.

They will eventually pay for the creation and duration of their Foley/October surprise.

[penelopesire]

LOL...I can't wait until this hits the desk of Howard Dean TOO!

[pissant]

My biggest problem ain't that they are gay. Instead, its their wanting to bugger kids AND that they are mostly flaming leftist commie al-qaeda enabling scum.

[Grampa Dave]

Same here.

[Uncle Chip]

Thank You ---

[MP5SD]

I'm going back now and looking into Mathew Loraditch the guy that ran the Congressional Page Alumni Association at

www.pagealumni.us/congpageassoc/

He shut the site down immediately when the story broke and has fallen off the map. I remember several posts here that where linked to the gay porn that he participated in. Their may be a link to back to badpuppy.

There's something fishy about Loraditch

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Apparently people out here in fruit and nut land are looking for photos of Pelosi with a flaming gay maggot during one of SF's Gay Happiness/Pride Day parades.

There was a well known Frisco Gay that just passed away, Pelosi was connected....his ambition was boy love.....was behind an organization to further the legality of such.....

[penelopesire]

Good idea! I could not bring myself to search that filthy Bad Puppy site last week...lol.
I think that one of these badpuppy web sites host little homepages for thier 'customers' though.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Damn this didn't take long:

Special Report
When Nancy Met Harry
By Jeffrey Lord
Published 10/5/2006 12:08:06 AM

*********************AN EXCERPT *************************

The Pride Parade.

That's what it's called in San Francisco when the community gathers for a parade during the annual San Francisco Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Pride Celebration. It is, by all accounts, a wingding of a celebration, too. As the San Francisco Chronicle, the media sponsor of the Pride Parade, put it in their special section devoted to the celebration in 2001, the parade is "the granddaddy, grandma and grandtrannie of 'em all." (That would be trannie as in "transvestite.")

The paper, bursting with civic pride, was also pleased to publish the marching order of the parade and all its celebrants. It's quite a list. A who's who of San Francisco. Then Supervisor and now Democratic mayor Gavin Newsom, members of two Democratic Clubs, California Democratic legislators, the police, sheriff and fire departments and even the director of the Golden Gate Bridge were marching right alongside celebrants from Vulva University, The Stud Bar, and Leather Pride.

It is, in short, the San Francisco political establishment whooping it up with its constituents.

What interests in all of this in light of the unfolding scandal involving Florida Republican Rep. Mark Foley and his mind-boggling e-mails to a young House page are the participants in spots number 31 and 34 of the Pride Parade.

Celebrant number 31 was the late Harry Hay. Harry, it seems, was quite the guy. In fact, it is not too much to say that he was famous in San Francisco. He was famous not only as a founder of the gay rights movement, for his one-time relationship with actor Will Geer (who played Grandpa Walton on The Waltons TV series,) he was also known for being featured in the 1976 documentary film of gay life titled Word Is Out. When he died the following year after the parade, at 90, the New York Times Magazine featured him in "The Lives They Lived," its annual pictorial salute to famous Americans who had passed away during the preceding year. In addition to laudatory obits in both the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times, the Chronicle did a considerably flattering obituary. "Harry Hay, gay rights pioneer, dies at 90." The paper favorably notes a number of things in Harry's life, including his left-leaning politics, his connection with the Communist Party in the 1930s and his founding of "The Mattachine Society," a group the Chronicle calls "the first sustained homosexual rights organization in the United States."

Fair enough. The Chronicle, however, left something else out of the obituary entirely. It was a very strong belief held by Harry Hay that, if one is to believe all the attention devoted to Harry on the Internet, was common knowledge in San Francisco.

Harry Hay was a fierce advocate of man/boy love. While The Chronicle simply ignored Harry's views, the North American Man/Boy Love Association was only too delighted to put up a collection of Harry's views on the need for young boys to have older men as sexual partners. Here's just a sample taken from a talk at a New York University forum sponsored by a campus gay group in 1983.

Said Harry: "Because if the parents and friends of gays are truly friends of gays, they would know from their gay kids that the relationship with an older man is precisely what thirteen-, fourteen-, and fifteen-year-old kids need more than anything else in the world."

In short, San Francisco's beloved Harry Hay was a vigorous and well-known advocate of older men having sex with young boys. He was a fearless and quite famous advocate for Congressman Mark Foley's behavior.

Which makes one curious about the presence of marcher number 34 in the 2001 Pride Parade. Marching a mere three spots away from the famous Harry Hay, no doubt waving and smiling to the crowd, was, as the Chronicle logged her in the Official Guide and Program Parade Lineup: "U.S. Rep. Nancy Pelosi."

That would be now Democratic leader of the U.S. Congress and the candidate of the Democratic Party to be the next Speaker of the House of Representatives, the official third in line to be President of the United States.

Surely this is a different Rep. Nancy Pelosi from the one who currently has on her website as Minority Leader the following statement:

"Republican leaders admitted to knowing about Mr. Foley's abhorrent behavior for six months to a year and failed to protect the children in their trust. Republican Leaders must be investigated by the Ethics Committee and immediately questioned under oath."

Abhorrent behavior? If men having sex with children is "abhorrent behavior" then it seems it would be quite logical for a United States Congresswoman to stand up and protest the presence of one of its leading advocates having a place of honor in a civic parade -- a parade in which she herself would be marching mere steps behind him.

[penelopesire]

Thanks to all of you for getting this stuff in people's hands! The MSM will have to be dragged to this kicking and screaming more than likely.
Wonder if we should send it in a IM to Brian Ross? (LOL)

[Political Junkie Too]

Steven is employed by Badpuppy AND is the Vice President of Public Policy for the National Business Group on Health.

You know, in Michael Savage's earlier days he used to talk about all the health-related legislation, such as the prescription drug bill, and he'd question who the real special interests were. Savage used to question whether the AARP was just the public justification for prescription drug give-aways, but were the real beneficiaries the gay/AIDS/HIV lobby?

Just how deep undercover was the gay lobby in Washington? What legislations have they been secretly influencing?

-PJ

[Liz]

Just what kind of information was the closeknit Capitol Hill Pink Powderpuff Predators Club sharing?

Now this oughta grab everyone's attention: The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee down on South Capitol Street-----headed by Cong Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill) to help Democrats get elected-----has in "intern program" and an "intern coordinator." Shades of Bill Clinton. Their very own intern program? Makes you wonder whether unsuspecting donors to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee know what their donations are actually being used for.

It strains credulity to suggest Foley's activities were not known in small-town Washington where every "secret" is public knowledge and discussed 24/7. All the club members know who hangs out in the gay bars and book stores on Dupont Circle...... "Isn't that right, Rahm?"

What did Cong Rahm Emanuel knew about Foley, and when did he know it? As Dem Cong Committee Chair, did Rahm put young pages at risk, by holding back information to score political points? If Dem Cong Committee Chair Rahm Emanuel engaged in a cover-up about Foley for political purposes, he needs to be investigated, pronto.

Rahm's friendly emails to Foley would be v-e-r-y interesting.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

And we have this:

Pelossi marched with NAMBLA.

********************EXCERPTS******************************

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15156523/

BUCHANAN: Let me make one more point. Ms. Pelosi has marched in gay pride parades with the North America Man-Boy Love Association, NAMBLA, which—who are pedophiles who are trying to get the laws repealed for sex between men and boys! If she‘s been marching with pedophiles, is she credible standing up there saying, I‘m shocked, shocked that some Republican is after 17-year-old pages?

Here apparently is the source for Buchanan's claim. A rather circuitous connection between someone who marched in the 2001 Gay Pride Parade in San Francisco (not a NAMBLA member, apparently, but a guy with some fairly noxious opinions on the matter, whose writings apparently were once posted on NAMBLA's website), and Pelosi, who was apparently in the same parade.

Quote:

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10450 ...What interests in all of this in light of the unfolding scandal involving Florida Republican Rep. Mark Foley and his mind-boggling e-mails to a young House page are the participants in spots number 31 and 34 of the Pride Parade. Celebrant number 31 was the late Harry Hay. Harry, it seems, was quite the guy. In fact, it is not too much to say that he was famous in San Francisco. He was famous not only as a founder of the gay rights movement, for his one-time relationship with actor Will Geer (who played Grandpa Walton on The Waltons TV series,) he was also known for being featured in the 1976 documentary film of gay life titled Word Is Out. When he died the following year after the parade, at 90, the New York Times Magazine featured him in "The Lives They Lived," its annual pictorial salute to famous Americans who had passed away during the preceding year. In addition to laudatory obits in both the New York Times and the Los Angeles Times, the Chronicle did a considerably flattering obituary. "Harry Hay, gay rights pioneer, dies at 90." The paper favorably notes a number of things in Harry's life, including his left-leaning politics, his connection with the Communist Party in the 1930s and his founding of "The Mattachine Society," a group the Chronicle calls "the first sustained homosexual rights organization in the United States." Fair enough. The Chronicle, however, left something else out of the obituary entirely. It was a very strong belief held by Harry Hay that, if one is to believe all the attention devoted to Harry on the Internet, was common knowledge in San Francisco. Harry Hay was a fierce advocate of man/boy love. While The Chronicle simply ignored Harry's views, the North American Man/Boy Love Association was only too delighted to put up a collection of Harry's views on the need for young boys to have older men as sexual partners. Here's just a sample taken from a talk at a New York University forum sponsored by a campus gay group in 1983. Said Harry: "Because if the parents and friends of gays are truly friends of gays, they would know from their gay kids that the relationship with an older man is precisely what thirteen-, fourteen-, and fifteen-year-old kids need more than anything else in the world." In short, San Francisco's beloved Harry Hay was a vigorous and well-known advocate of older men having sex with young boys. He was a fearless and quite famous advocate for Congressman Mark Foley's behavior. Which makes one curious about the presence of marcher number 34 in the 2001 Pride Parade. Marching a mere three spots away from the famous Harry Hay, no doubt waving and smiling to the crowd, was, as the Chronicle logged her in the Official Guide and Program Parade Lineup: "U.S. Rep. Nancy Pelosi."

*******************Commentary from the FORUM********************** So, the right's usual dirty tricks. Twisting reality; making claims that are inaccurate from information that is merely coincidental. Let's clear up a few things, because I suspect this item will be emerging as one of many of the right wing's usual retreats to smearing in the face of adversity -- diverting from their own failure of leadership on this matter to point out what appears to be a merely tangential connection between Pelosi and NAMBLA. - The guy in question was apparently NEVER a NAMBLA member. Note how conspicuously absent that claim is. - The only link to NAMBLA apparently is this rather curiously-worded claim that NAMBLA "put up a collection of Harry's views." I have no idea what "put up means, but regardless, it's clear he himself was not part of NAMBLA, nor did he in any way represent them in the parade. - NAMBLA -- the organization -- did NOT march in the parade. - NAMBLA has been banned from EVER marching in that parade. - I highly doubt Pelosi had any idea this guy had written or expressed such things in the past. - If she had known, I have little doubt she would have stayed away. - Their proximity in the parade marching order list would seem to merely reflect how parade organizers had set things up. It certainly isn't indicative of Pelosi's wish to be close to this guy, as the above article seems to imply. The dirty tricks are flying now, folks. This story has what I'd say is, oh, I don't know, a sub-atomic quark-sized spec of reality behind it. But, as spoken, Pat lied. And as written here, it's blatantly deceptive, the worst form of guilt-by-association with the flimsiest of connections between Pelosi and this guy, and still about ten steps removed from any association with NAMBLA itself. But, as we know, that's usually more than enough for the dirt-digger-uppers on the right. I can see them now, strategizing, "Can we make this connection? I don't know..." Then, suddenly, the light bulb goes off, and they figure out a way to make the distant, disconnected relationship between these facts look like Pelosi was proudly marching alongside NAMBLA, happily embracing their agenda and goals. It's the usual bullshit from the right, on steroids -- a sign of how desperate this affair has made them. Pelosi, a grandmother of five, deserves better, but she's got a "D" AND the dreaded "S.F." after her name, almost a right-wing hatefest trifecta.

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