Indeed:
Posted on 10/10/2006 5:08:28 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
The principal at a Fayette County middle school has banned all clothing with the confederate flag emblem...
(Excerpt) Read more at wsbtv.com ...
free dixie,sw
Speaking of extortion and things disreputable, how about this from the the Knoxville correspondent of the Cincinnati Gazette as published in the New Orleans Daily Picayune of February 27, 1864 [paragraph breaks are mostly mine]:
There is, withal, something to admire in the way these Southern women stick to their fading chivalry. And there is something infinitely detestable in the way some of our subofficials are enriching themselves on ill-gotten spoils.
... Long before it is dreamed of by the uninitiated that Mrs. A. or Mrs. B. is to be sent beyond our lines, that gallant quartermaster, who is in charge of transportation in this department, is a constant visitor to said lady's mansion. His ambulance is at her service and his order procures her abundance of commissary viande.
Poor victim, did she but know it, these are among the first indications of her disloyalty. A week or two after these preliminaries the order is issued for her expulsion. Two days perhaps are given to her to dispose of her costly furniture.
Citizens call to purchase, but are informed that "the goods are engaged to Capt. L., the very polite quartermaster. He has been so kind to me. He knew a good while before I did that I would be sent away, and made arrangements to buy all my things. If he will sell you any, all right." The truth is, the goods were purchased with fawnings and favors; and the quartermaster now sells them at exorbitant prices, or ships them home to his own parlors on Government transportation.
"Ah, but I made a good thing of it this morning," says an A. Q. M. to his friend the other day. "Yes, but how are you going to get those things North?" "Oh, as to that, you know we quartermasters have special advantages." And he did make a "good thing of it," not only in that case, but in a half dozen others I could mention.
I have no objection to make to the expulsion of these disloyal and rebel-sympathizing citizens, They, no doubt, richly deserve their fate; but I do most solemnly protest against permitting officials to fill their own dirty pockets at the expense of the Government's reputation.
Such chicanery is not restricted to Northerners. My elderly mother-in-law almost got taken the same way before she died by a Southern preacher.
Daschle would be at home with the gun-grabbing, big government Democratic Confederate regime.
Then I take it you would have been against gun grabbers in the Lincoln government and the logic of their supporters. Here's Representative Thomas of Maryland [a Lincoln supporter] defending the [US] Government wanting to take arms from all people in Maryland [Congressional Globe, July 18, 1861, page 202]:
... the Legislature ... passed a law which goes very far to secure arms in the hands of individuals. Why? If the citizens of Maryland are for warring against the Government, they should not be permitted to have arms. If they are for peace they do not need them, for the arm of the United States protects them ...
To what gun-grabbing by the Confederate government are your referring? Could have happened, certainly. The Feds definitely did it. Here's Representative Burnett of Kentucky [Congressional Globe, July 16, 1861]:
The president [Lincoln] has likewise violated the second amendment, which secures people the right to keep and bear arms. ... Arms, the private property of the citizens, have, upon mere suspicion, been taken at the order of military commanders, and are now withheld from the citizens ... [A Member: Where?] [Mr. Burnett: In my own state (Kentucky)...]
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ewyatt/_borders/1860%20Slave%20Owner%20Index%20Indian%20Lands.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/655380/posts
http://americancivilwar.com/authors/black_slaveowners.htm
Have fun reading and learning.
You seem to be haunting this thread maybe you should do more studying.
Wonder how the story would be received if it read The principal at a Fayette County middle school has banned all clothing with the Jewish Star of David emblem...
Indeed:
You Euro-weenies are only allowed to fly the Euro-weenie flag, the rainbow flag or the UN flag.
most of what you posted is ANYTHING but the PRIMARY source. go look up the ORIGONAL tax records & i'll pay more attention.
free dixie,sw
until then, i'll be glad to teach you, as i have HUNDREDS of students. are you willing to accept the TRUTH, even when the data points out what GARBAGE in "semi-human form" the union invaders demonstrably were???
free dixie,sw
did you UNDERSTAND what the book said???
free dixie,sw
Do you think the Boy Scouts are a facist organization because they have a uniform?
laughing AT you DUMB-bunny remarks.
free dixie,sw
I think that Lord Baden-Powell founded the Boy Scouts as a military organization, meant to provide the British Army [in the time following the Boer War] with young talent familiar with woodcraft and scouting in advance of larger formations. It was for that very reason that Scouting adopted the military uniforms and structure that still serve it to this day- and is one of the primary reasons that Scouting is particularly despised by liberal fifth columnists within this country.
Baden-Powell gave a lecture on 'Soldiering' 24th November 1904 to an audience of Boys intending to make the army their career #14. This was followed up by a letter published in the Eton College Chronicle on the 22nd December 1904 concerning a training scheme for Boys.
Baden-Powell suggested that during the Christmas holiday each of the Eton Volunteers should bring together a small squad in their town or Village, read to them books about the Knights, and teach them:-
(1) How to aim and shoot miniature rifles;
(2) How to judge distance;
(3) How to Scout;
(4) How to drill and skirmish, take cover etc.
Members of the squad were to sign a paper containing the following:-
(1) To fear God
(2) Honour the King
(3) Help the weak and distressed
(4) Reverence women and be kind to children;
(5) Train themselves to the use of arms for defence of their country
(6) sacrifice themselves, their amusements, their property, and, if necessary, their lives for the good of their fellow-countrymen.
A promise was to be made; I promise on my honour, to be loyal to the King and to back up my commander in carrying out our duty in each of the above particulars. (Each member will sign his name in the space below this.)
Baden-Powell further pointed out in the letter "If two hundred volunteers carried out this idea and each trained ten boys this Christmas, we should have 2,000 retainers trained and ready to defend their country...........I shall be very glad to hear from any boy who succeeds in getting together a squad as I should like to keep a register of these. And I would gladly come and inspect the one which attains the highest strength this winter"
"BP" was ORDERED personally by HRM the king to START the BOY SCOUTS as a RESERVE of the GB military forces. The BSA Handbook (when i was a scout 5 decades ago. fwiw, i still HAVE mine, my uniform from 1960 & my OA sash.) had the WHOLE STORY!
i'd guess that in these "PC times", the TRUTH isn't good enough to tell in the current Handbook. PITY!
free dixie,sw
Despite thirty years of philosophizing, denial, obfuscation, scriptural revision, and constitutional sophistries it all came down to this: the South was terrified of large numbers of blacks, slave or free. It is not an exaggeration to say that the Civil War was about slavery and in the long run, only about slavery....In contradiction to libertarian references to 'states rights and liberty' made by many neo-Confederates, the Rebel leadership made clear its view that not only were blacks not people, but that ultimately all blacks-including then-free Negros-should be enslaved. In his response to the Emancipation Proclamation, Jefferson Davis stated, 'On and after Febrary 22, 1863, all free negros within the limits of the Southern Confederacy shall be placed on slave status, and be deemed to be chattels, they and their issue forever'.
Not only blacks 'within the limits' of the Confederacy, but 'all negroes who shall be taken in any of the States in which slavery does not now exist, in the progress of our arms, shall be abjudged to....occupy the slave status...[and]all free negroes shall,ipso facto, be reduced to the condition of helotism, so that...the white and black races may be ulimately placed on a permanent bsis.[italics added] That basis, Davis said after the war started, was as 'an inferior race, peaceful and contented laborers in their sphere'. (A Patriot's History of the United States, pg.302)
Below is from Jeff Davis's address to the provisional congress
Finally a great party was organized for the purpose of obtaining the administration of the Government, with the avowed object of using its power for the total exclusion of the slave States from all participation in the benefits of the public domain acquired by all the States in common, whether by conquest or purchase; of surrounding them entirely by States in which slavery should be prohibited; of thus rendering the property in slaves so insecure as to be comparatively worthless, and thereby annihilating in effect property worth thousands of millions of dollars. This party, thus organized, succeeded in the month of November last in the election of its candidate for the Presidency of the United States.
http://occawlonline.pearsoned.com/bookbind/pubbooks/divine5e/medialib/timeline/docs/sources/theme_primarysources_Slavery_19.html
Fighting to be Free--the Civil War
When southern states responded to the election of Abraham Lincoln by forming the Confederate States of America and seceding from the United States, most enslaved and free African Americans knew that slavery lay at the heart of the rebellion. They knew that southern whites seceded in order to preserve and protect the institution of slavery. White southerners feared that, with Lincoln as President, the anti-slavery forces in the northern states would ram through a constitutional amendment ending slavery. They also feared that Lincoln, the first Republican President and a man openly opposed to slavery, would appoint anti-slavery judges to Federal courts, including the Supreme Court.
Northern free blacks responded to the outbreak of war between the North and the South by volunteering to fight for the Union. But, it took two years for the North to accept blacks as soldiers. Lincoln rejected the initial offers of volunteer units of black soldiers because he feared turning the War into a war against slavery. He feared that, by accepting black soldiers, he would undermine white support for the War and might lose loyal Border States like Missouri to the Confederacy. President Abraham Lincoln was determined to fight the War as a battle to save the Union rather than as a war to end slavery. To this end, he refused to allow for the enlistment of black soldiers until mounting numbers of white casualties softened white public opinion towards using blacks in combat.
In the summer of 1862, five black infantry regiments were authorized for action in the Sea Islands off South Carolina and Georgia. Six months later, following Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation on January 1, 1863 (which officially ended slavery in Confederate areas not under Union authority), black units were formed in Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island. In May of 1863, the War Department created the Bureau of Colored Troops and began vigorously recruiting black soldiers. The most famous of these northern regiments was the 54th Massachusetts, which counted 100 dead and 146 wounded in its assault on Fort Wagner at Charleston Harbor on July 18, 1863. Due to the 54th Massachusetts' valiant efforts, no one could doubt of the ability of black soldiers to fight or their willingness to die for the Union cause.
Eventually, 178,000 African Americans served as soldiers during the Civil War, and up to 33,000 served in the Navy: 80 percent of them were former slaves. Ultimately, 166 African-American regiments--consisting of 145 infantry, seven cavalry, 12 heavy artillery, one light artillery, and one regiment of engineers--served in the Civil War. Although they fought and died with courage and honor, black soldiers suffered discrimination both officially and unofficially. Almost all officers in the black units were whites. Of the 7,200 officers who served in the United States Colored Troop, only 110 were African Americans. More than 70 of the 110 were so harassed by their superiors that they resigned their commissions. Black soldiers were paid less than white soldiers, received unequal medical care, poor equipment and supplies, and worked at digging ditches, latrines, and fortifications so the white soldiers to be rested and ready for battle. It was only after black soldiers refused to accept the unequal pay, in what amounted to a pay strike against the Federal Government, that matters changed, although full equality in pay was more of a promise than a reality for black soldiers.
Still, black units fought in 39 major battles and in hundreds of minor engagements, skirmishes, and incidents. They gained public acclaim for their heroism in the battles of Port Hudson, Milliken's Bend, Fort Wagner, Fort Pillow, and the final battles on the Virginia front leading to the fall of Petersburg, Virginia, the Confederate Capital. Approximately 3,000 soldiers lost their lives in battle, and another 33,000 died from war-related diseases--a proportion much higher than the disease-caused casualties of white troops. The high death rate of black soldiers from diseases stemmed principally from the fact that black troops were often assigned to the least healthy posts, such as guarding river fortifications or doing fatigue labor in swamps and marshy areas.
Black soldiers also confronted angry reaction from Confederate soldiers that made their duty in the field especially dangerous. For the most part, Confederate soldiers treated black soldiers as runaway slaves to be executed when captured or else sold into slavery. The great black leader, Frederick Douglass, demanded that President Lincoln take actions to prevent the summary execution of captured black soldiers by threatening to stop his recruitment efforts. The President announced that for every black soldier killed or sold into slavery, a rebel prisoner would be executed or put to hard labor. Yet, Lincoln's order did not end the execution or enslavement of captured black soldiers, partly because he never carried it out. No Confederate prisoners were ever executed under the policy.
In one of the worst episodes of the War, Confederates under the command of Nathan Bedford Forrest (who later became infamous as a founder of the Ku Klux Klan massacred Union soldiers at Fort Pillow on the Tennessee River on April 12, 1864, giving "no quarter," especially to surrendering black soldiers. Lincoln refused, however, to carry out his earlier proclamation to execute rebel prisoners, probably understanding that Confederate soldiers would never recognize the legitimacy of African-American soldiers.
Black sailors also served with distinction in the U.S. Navy during the Civil War. Estimates on the number of black sailors range from a low of 10,000 to a high of 33,000. The exact number is uncertain because the Navy did not classify sailors by race. Black sailors did experience discrimination, often being assigned the hardest tasks, such as working the boilers on steam-powered vessels. Many sailors also were used as stewards or waiters to serve white officers. But in general, black sailors were treated better than the soldiers in the United States Colored Troops. The Navy had a long tradition of using black sailors, and most white Americans did not view naval service to be of high social status or to consist of anything but work typically done by the lowest classes of white Americans. Moreover, whereas black soldiers were overwhelming rural and former slaves, black sailors typically were urban, skilled, and usually free men before the Civil War. And, large numbers of foreign-born blacks came to the U.S. during the War to enlist in the Navy. Black sailors served side-by-side with white sailors in cramped quarters on the ships, received equal pay, and shared equally with white sailors in any prize money from captured ships. Naval courts generally treated black sailors as equal to white sailors--blacks sometimes even received less severe punishments for crimes when compared to white sailors.
On the home front within the Confederacy, enslaved African Americans were forced to labor for the Confederacy by building fortifications and working in other fatigue labor to support rebel troops. Over 1,000 slaves and free blacks worked in the Tredegar Iron Works in Richmond during the War, and some enslaved men lost their lives manning Confederate cannons and laboring as supply hands. Untold numbers of free blacks in the South and in northern areas captured by the Confederacy were enslaved. Some slaves and hundreds of free blacks actually volunteered to fight for the Confederacy, probably fearful of being enslaved or mistreated if they failed to express their loyalty to the new government. In Charleston, for example, free black fire brigades fought fires caused by Union cannon fire. White Union troops occasionally encountered armed blacks fighting for the Confederacy, and some free blacks even won official recognition for their service. For example, John Wilson Buckner, a free black, fought for the defense of Charleston at Fort Wager against the 54th Massachusetts, suffering wounds in action. Many more black men and women contributed to the Confederacy by serving as personal servants to their white owners when they fought as officers in Confederate units. Many others were impressed into service as nurses in military hospitals.
By 1864, some southern whites began talking about the need to arm slaves in defense of the Confederacy, giving freedom to those who served. Most whites recognized the absurdity of arming slaves, agreeing with the opinion of one Confederate Senator from North Carolina who said: "If we are right in passing this measure (to arm the slaves), we were wrong in denying to the old government the right to interfere with the institution of slavery and to emancipate slaves. Besides, if we offer slaves their freedom, we confess that we were insincere, were hypocritical, in asserting that slavery was the best state for the Negroes themselves." In the end, however, with the enemy at the very gates of Petersburg, Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederacy, along with General Robert E. Lee, commander of Confederate forces, endorsed using slaves as soldiers. In March of 1865, the Confederate Congress voted to enlist 300,000 black troops, granting them freedom with the consent of their owners. This was a desperate move that was never implemented, and a few weeks later Lee surrendered to Union forces under General Ulysses S. Grant at Appomattox Court House. The War to save slavery had become, for the South, a war to preserve southern independence even if it meant giving up slavery by arming the enslaved.
In those areas where the soldiers of the Confederacy and the Union met in battle, enslaved blacks experienced the special hardships of war. Forces from both sides abused the enslaved by forcing them to work in difficult and often deadly tasks, separated them from their families, and molested especially women left defenseless by the War. Thousands of slaves were uprooted as their owners marched them into the interior and to faraway Texas to escape invading Union forces. Although Union forces molested few white women in the occupied Confederacy, many enslaved women were raped, robbed, and assaulted by Union soldiers.
More than anything else, the outbreak of war offered enslaved African Americans the opportunity to break for freedom and to liberate themselves. At the first sign of hostilities, blacks stopped acting like slaves and broke for freedom by the thousands. Invading Union troops encountered armies of black refugees fleeing to Union lines. Most came with just the clothes on their backs. The waves of black refugees threatened to overwhelm Union war efforts, pressuring Lincoln to establish a refuge program wherein women, children, and the elderly were initially put in refugee camps and then placed on abandoned or occupied plantations to work for wages. The plan called for able-bodied black males to be recruited into the army, with the black units serving as a home guard on the plantations where their families lived and worked. Several 100,000 black refugees lived in these camps and worked on occupied plantations protected by black soldiers during the War in the Mississippi River Valley and in the coastal regions of Georgia and South Carolina. Confederate guerrilla forces often hit these plantations, killing blacks and taking them back into slavery.
Besides breaking for freedom and fighting to protect their families as soldiers, numerous southern blacks served as spies, Union scouts, and as sources of military intelligence for the Union forces. Harriet Tubman, for example, who knew the South well from her days in slavery and her efforts in helping slaves escape via the Underground Railroad, was formally commended by the Secretary of War for her work as a Union scout and as a nurse in the Sea Islands. Thousands of other blacks led Union troops to hidden valuables, buried cotton, and food stores left behind by fleeing Confederates.
For the most part, however, southern blacks simply stopped acting like slaves once the War began and awaited the outcome of the fighting, especially slaves in the interior of the Confederacy. The problem of slave disobedience became so troublesome to the Confederacy that whites owning at least 20 slaves were exempt from service so that they could stay at home to better control the black population. To most southern whites' surprise, no outbreak of slave rebellion occurred during the War. Indeed, no southern white women were molested or abused by angry slaves; no retaliation of any great extent occurred against white masters; and few acts of vengeance were demonstrated in acts of violence against southern property or southern whites. In many cases, the enslaved simply snuck away in the night, seldom taking anything but their clothes. Some even provided provisions for the families of their white masters before leaving. And much to the surprise of nearly all whites, the first to leave were the household servants: men and women believed to be loyal and contented slaves.
For most southern slaves and northern free blacks, the Civil War experience represented a high point in their history. After the War, the nation all but abandoned efforts at providing justice for the formerly enslaved except during a few short years from 1865 to 1876, known as the era of Reconstruction. After that brief period, during which southern blacks experienced significant political and social empowerment, there descended upon the region over 100 years of segregation, lynching, disfranchisement, and racial violence commonly known as the era of Jim Crow. Writing in the 1890s in the midst of Jim Crow, black poet Paul Laurence Dunbar, whose father served as a Union soldier, wrote with pride about the Civil War experience of blacks who fought to free themselves from slavery, both actually and symbolically.
http://www.slaveryinamerica.org/history/hs_es_overview.htm
No I havent read it Dixie. You mean people actually take instruction from you.? What a waste.Obviously you dominate all discussions. Did you write this book? It seems to be the only one you ever read at least the only one you ever mention. By the way did you bother to check the sites I sent you? I guess anything you dont agree with is not considered a source. I dont think you and I ever argued about what garbage the Northern generals were, our topic was Indian slave owners, But if you like we can change the subject. Personally there is no doubt Sherman should have been tried as a war criminal, personally I think Abe Lincoln was one too. He broke most every Amendment in the Constitution. By the way did you know that Grant owned a slave but Robert E. Lee didnt?
I will look up your book and read it though, it sounds interesting.
Baden-Powell Scouting began in England in 1907-08, created by General Robert Baden-Powell. B-P, a 50-year old bachelor at the time, was one of the few heroes to come out of Britain's Boer War. He was known primarily for his unusual ideas about military scouting, explained in his book Aids to Scouting. Startled to discover that many boys were using his military book as a guide to outdoor activities, he began to think how he could convert his concepts of army scouting for men to "peace scouting" for boys. Gathering ideas from many sources (including Ernest Thompson Seton, who had founded a boys organization in the US), he tested his program on a group of boys on Brownsea Island in 1907. The island camp was successful, so B-P rewrote his military book, calling it Scouting for Boys. The climate was right for a youth program like Scouting, and it spread quickly around the British commonwealth, then to other countries.
http://www.troop97.net/bsahist1.htm#world
Now, I am not saying that uniforms are the only way to go, a dress code would be sufficent.
You cut and paste almost as much as the infamous Whiskey Papa did. I wonder if the admin mods have done an IP check on you yet?
Translation-you can't dispute the facts.
The facts are that you make the same arguements as the ACLU, NAACP, SPLC, Democrat Underground and every other marxist, far left un-American organization.
You really seem to have your panties all in a twist of the historical FACT of slavery. It must really be torture for you every time you see George Washington's face on a dollar bill.
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