Posted on 10/08/2006 7:47:28 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe
I STILL think that the train station explosion was an assassination attempt that failed. I wonder if China was responsible for that one....since Kim had just been on a train visit to China.
Interesting speculation. China could definitely manage to kill Kim. Someone must. And soon.
Might have been Gen. McInerney. I haven't been listening to Fox since last night, have they gone all wimpy on tough-talking, cleared-minded guests since then?
Col. Hunt was on last night and advocating "listening to NK and finding out what they want". Sort of made me sick, he's taken a turn IMO, since becoming Hitlery's military consultant.
It is impossible to negotiate with liars and Kim is a liar. Talk will produce nothing favorable for us. I am sorry to hear that about Col. Hunt.
I too got sick of FNC last night until McInerney appeared.
Ouch, if true. Would the Russians actually be telling the truth for once, or are they playing this for all it's worth in the publicity / stoke-the-hysteria realm?
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N. Korea: SK Intelligence, "Unusual movements at Pung-gye-ri"(another possible nuke test)
Yonhap News (via Naver.com) ^ | 10/09/06 | Kim Nam-kwon, Lee Seung-woo
Posted on 10/09/2006 5:00:56 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
/begin my translation
S. Korean Intelligence, "Unusual movements at Pung-gye-ri, too"
[Yonhap News 2006-10-09 19:15]
Head of S. Korean Intelligence, "Additional nuclear tests are certainly possible"
(Seoul = Yonhap News) Kim Nam-kwon, Lee Seung-woo = S. Korean government is busy analyzing signs of unusual movements in the afternoon of Oct. 9 at Pung-gye-ri, Gilju County, a different place from Munsudan-ri, Hwadae County, N. Hamkyong Province, where today's nuclear test occurred.
Kim Seung-kyu, Head of S. Korean Intelligence, attended the full session of Intelligence Committee of National Assembly this afternoon. When someone asked, "Have you pinpointed the N. Korean nuclear test site?" he added this information, while giving his answer.
He said, "Starting at 3pm this afternoon, we spotted unusual movements at Pung-gye-ri, where we first thought the test would be conducted. They are movements of 30~40 personnels and vehicles. We are looking into it carefully," according to a member of the Committee.
Mr. Kim went on, "We try to figure out if they plan to do a series of tests as India and Pakistan did."
Another member of the Committee said that Mr. Kim reported, "There is ample possibility that N. Korea would conduct additional nuclear tests."
According to the member, S. Korean Intelligence estimates that the nuclear bomb which went off today is a subcritical bomb whose yield is less than 1 kt.
/end my translation
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1159193402025&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
Oct. 9, 2006 13:03 | Updated Oct. 9, 2006 13:53
"'Israel has cause for concern over N. Korea's nuclear test'"
By SHANI ROSENFELDER AND JPOST.COM STAFF
ARTICLE SNIPPET: ""Israel should be very concerned by North Korea's nuclear test," Uzi Eilam, former head of Israel's Atomic Energy Commission (IAEC) told The Jerusalem Post on Monday.
According to Eilam, "The cause for concern is three-fold. First, as a world democracy, it should be concerned by the threat a North Korean nuclear capability poses to the entire world. Second, It is certainly possible that Pyongyang would share its nuclear know-how with Iran, in return for a sizeable financial reward. North Korea's nuclear program is far more advanced than Iran's. While Iran has only started to produce fissile material, North Korea has done so at least five years ago."
"Third, Syria, which is also under heavy international pressure, could look at the North Korean example and decide to actively push for its own nuclear capability, taking into account that it would be a great deterrent to alleviate the pressure and get the international community off its back," Eilam said."
Well, he'd need an awful lot of these mini-nukes to do that. More than he can make.
Plus he'd need a delivery system.
And that system would need survivability after whatever SSBN is currently on station in the Sea of Okhotsk obliterated him, and his country.
Look, a 15 kT weapon delivered as an airburst over a 1945 Japanese city killed 85 000 people.
One of Kim's nuke minis (maybe he should call it the nuke nano and start making them for Apple), delivered as a ground burst, or more probably a sea-level harbor burst, wouldn't even do that.
To "destroy the US" or to "kill millions" would take literally hundreds of these primitive devices, and assumes that after the first two, there would still be a "North Korea" (or for that matter that there still would be a "Pakistan"), both highly unlikely contingencies.
There would then be a bumpy, expensive, but successful reunification of Korea, along the lines and time frame of German reunification. There is still an outside chance that NK will fall without a shot being fired.
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A uranium bomb consists of fissionable U surrounded by a shaped charge of conventional explosives. The shaped charge is intended to drive the material into a critical mass, so it will explode. Based on the available information, there is a chance that NK didn't design its bomb correctly, and the nuclear material did NOT explode.
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Thanks much for the info.
My friend's husband headed for South Korea on business yesterday, and she will be joining him tomorrow. I don't suppose they're in too much danger at this point??
I'm hoping the same thing. Voinovich changed his vote because of the type of message opposing Bolton would send to the terrorists. I think they need to put NK and Iran in the mix as well. Frankly, Voinovich should have taken that into consideration when he withheld his support from Bolton the first time around.
They have the size of test wrong, it initially appears to have been in the 500 ton range, not megaton.
Last night CNN International was blaming Bush for the nuclear test by North Korea.
I don't think Al Jezerrrra or any Arab TV program could have done a better job than CNN did shaping the anti Bush talking points.
Madam Albright and her minions were all over CNN International denouncing Bush's failed policies in dealing with poor little harmless Kim Jong ll.
I already heard a demoncrat strategist on Fox this morning blaming President Bush, so their talking points are well under way...too bad this is all Clintoon's fault in the first place.
If we re-activate the draft and start bringing in people that do not really want to be there, whose heart really isn't in it, a possible side effect could be a decline in morale and fighting effectiveness of combat troops. Currently, all of our troops are committed volunteers that are motivated to fight for their country...they want to be in the military or they would not be there.
And now the Chinese are claiming an even higher number.
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