[expatpat]

You Europhobes still hold onto your belief that Europe can't do another racial cleansing? You don't realize that there is a brutal beast under that veneer of politeness? Kipling knew his countrymen well:

Oh, my country, bless the training that from cot to castle runs
The pitfall of the stranger but the bulwark of thy sons
Measured speech and ordered action, sluggish soul and un perturbed,
Till we wake our Island-Devil-nowise cool for being curbed!

When the heir of all the ages "has the honour to remain,"
When he will not hear an insult, though men make it ne'er so plain,
When his lips are schooled to meekness, when his back is bowed to blows
Well the keen aas-vogels know it-well the waiting jackal knows.

Build on the flanks of Etna where the sullen smoke-puffs float
Or bathe in tropic waters where the lean fin dogs the boat
Cock the gun that is not loaded, cook the frozen dynamite
But oh, beware my Country, when my Country grows polite!

[vimto]

Too true - man is not civilized. I agree. I wish it were not so. But we msut live in the real world.

[fireman43]

You Europhobes still hold onto your belief that Europe can't do another racial cleansing? You don't realize that there is a brutal beast under that veneer of politeness?

Sure, Europe is capable of at least one more ethnic cleansing -- they will make sure that in the next 10-15 years that they will finish Hitler's work and totally cleanse the Jews from Europe. That's why they do nothing now as Jews get beaten, shot and stabbed, and their synagogues burned.

But cleanse Muslims? Never. Muslims serve a useful purpose to the Europeans -- getting rid of the Jews.

[Defiant]

Kipling wrote that in the 1800s. A few decades later, Europeans killed each other by the millions. Twenty five years later, they did it again, killing tens of millions. Three generations after WW2, they are much different as a people. Can they rewake the beast within, the inner Viking, Hun and Roman Legionnaire? I don't know. I hope they can, but I don't know. The underlying culture that existed in the 1800s has been wiped out, a victim of Gramsci and communism's attack on the basis of society.

And if they do succeed in eradicating Islam from Europe, I hope it doesn't result in a new monster. One of the things that has been fairly praiseworthy of America is that the people can become brutal as necessary when fighting a war, and then revert back to a peaceful, kind society when the war is over. For reference, check the aftermath of the Civil War and WW2.

It would probably take an overthrow of civilian rule in Europe to take the steps necessary to eliminate Islam's threat. What will happen after the threat is gone? Frankly, I prefer a European authoritarian rule to a Europe under the sway of militant Islam, but the former can be a threat to US interests, too.

By the way, Europhobe is an incorrect label. No one, least of all me, fears Europe. We pity Europe's cowardice, mock its military "prowess", denigrate its political correctness,and learn from its economic mistakes. We are cousins, but in the past century, we've gone from first cousins to second cousins--in other words, we are related enough to care if you succeed but not so close that we spend a lot of time and energy on your behalf. Good luck to you, and we will root for Europe's return to sanity.

[Chuck Dent]

You don't realize that there is a brutal beast under that veneer of politeness?

Why aren't there any other species under Genus: Homo other than sapiens? Ever see chimps organize murder parties? Where did all the big game go in N.America/Europe?

A killer lurks beneath the placid facade of civilisation.

[FreedomPoster]

I've been saying for some time that there will be concentration camps in Europe again, before this is over. The only question is, Who will be running them?

I'm not at all happy to be making that prediction, that's just the way I see it going, given history and how I see this playing out.