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To: fireman43
It's not too late, but in 20 years it will be. They need to send back guest workers and illegals, pass laws that prohibit Islamic practices like hijab and sharia, enforce those laws, proselytize in the Muslim community, expose Muhammad as a fraud and treat Islam as a menace to be defeated politically and intellectually, like communism and fascism.

Will Europeans have the stomach to defend their homeland? I doubt it. But they could if they wanted to. It would take Churchillian statesmanship.

14 posted on 10/06/2006 11:21:01 AM PDT by Defiant (Do you realize if the Star Wars creator's last name was Thomas, we would have Tom Skywalker?)
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To: Defiant; fireman43
You Europhobes still hold onto your belief that Europe can't do another racial cleansing? You don't realize that there is a brutal beast under that veneer of politeness? Kipling knew his countrymen well:

Oh, my country, bless the training that from cot to castle runs
The pitfall of the stranger but the bulwark of thy sons
Measured speech and ordered action, sluggish soul and un perturbed,
Till we wake our Island-Devil-nowise cool for being curbed!

When the heir of all the ages "has the honour to remain,"
When he will not hear an insult, though men make it ne'er so plain,
When his lips are schooled to meekness, when his back is bowed to blows
Well the keen aas-vogels know it-well the waiting jackal knows.

Build on the flanks of Etna where the sullen smoke-puffs float
Or bathe in tropic waters where the lean fin dogs the boat
Cock the gun that is not loaded, cook the frozen dynamite
But oh, beware my Country, when my Country grows polite!

28 posted on 10/06/2006 11:49:58 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: Defiant
It's not too late, but in 20 years it will be. They need to send back guest workers and illegals, pass laws that prohibit Islamic practices like hijab and sharia, enforce those laws, proselytize in the Muslim community, expose Muhammad as a fraud and treat Islam as a menace to be defeated politically and intellectually, like communism and fascism.

AIN'T.GONNA.HAPPEN.

50 posted on 10/06/2006 12:06:29 PM PDT by fireman43
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To: Defiant

I think they will find the stomach to defend their homelands. The question is will it be too late when they finally do? Europe has extremely porous borders - worse than our own - so they have to unite. It is more difficult for Britain to do this because she is not situated on the continent. Which continental country will take the lead? It should be France, but she will only step up and say, "Me, too" and try to take over the lead when she sees someone else doing it. France will covet the lead but not the work to be done. That will bring about internicine squabbles. Italy could do it, and, as an economic leader on the continent, so could the Dutch. They have a small but very competent military. The Germans are too far left now to take the lead, but that could perhaps change if they would but recognize the threat on their doorstep. But the German psyche didn't see what Hitler was about until it was too late and I would not expect their dull minds to react anymore wisely in this situation.


61 posted on 10/06/2006 12:17:18 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Defiant

Just look at Denmark.

The policies they instated after 9/11 has now resulted in a decreasing share of muslims in the country for the first time.

Some analysts think that is why the whole cartoon bruhaha happened in the first place, because the islamists were scared of what was happening in Denmark.

It's too early to give up yet.

In fact it is downright defeatist.


63 posted on 10/06/2006 12:19:00 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Defiant
pass laws that prohibit Islamic practices

How a bout the islamic practice of spawning dozens of children? Those burqa's make ideal maternity clothes.

The islamic birthrate is far far higher than the Europeans' and may well triumph in the end. Those chic Frahnch women eschewed motherhood long ago in favor of being eternally slim. And cool. And hip. And liberated.

100 posted on 10/06/2006 1:24:37 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Defiant
It's not too late, but in 20 years it will be. They need to send back guest workers and illegals, pass laws that prohibit Islamic practices like hijab and sharia, enforce those laws, proselytize in the Muslim community, expose Muhammad as a fraud and treat Islam as a menace to be defeated politically and intellectually, like communism and fascism.

The correct strategy is to demand reciprocity. For starters, no more immigration -- none -- from Moslem countries that do not recognize freedom of religion, free speech, the emancipation of women, etc. Go on the offensive in every forum. Tell the muzzies that we are not interested in "dialogue" with any culture that does not meet us in a free marketplace of ideas.

155 posted on 10/07/2006 9:30:20 AM PDT by sphinx
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