Turkey warns France Armenian bill will hit trade, bilateral

Maybe the Turks will declare a "Day of Rage".

Allowing a country into the EU that denies the genocide it perpetrated is utter stupidity.

"He warned that the move could jeopardise "investments, the fruit of years of work, and, if the expression is appropriate, France will lose Turkey."

Good. That ought to encourage France to pass the bill. Turkey is not a European country. It is a Muslim country that is only slightly more civilized than other Muslim countries. Which is to say hardly at all.

There weren't even that many Armenians in anatolia at the time to begin with. Russian stats put the total number at around 1.3 million for God's sake. Hundreds of thousands of those were moved to other parts of the former empire, several hundred thousand migrated to Europe and America after the war and many thousand of them stayed. So how could that many people have been killed?

By the way, what happened to hundreds of thousads of Turks, Kurds, Jews that used to live in those in those regions adn disappeared between 1915 and 1920? There are over 900,000 documented Turkish deaths caused by Armenians during the same time period. Did the lives of all those people have no value? Several mass graves full of Turks are being uncovered every year with solid evidence attesting to the ethnicity of the victims.

It is a documented fact that Armenians formed terrorist organizations to seek independence, that they were heavily armed, that they collaborated with French and Russian invading forces and launched mass killings. All of these facts are ignored and the difficulties of those times are reflected as a genocide commited by Turks.

The Armenian Issue in the Russian State Archives

by Mehmet Perincek
April 2006 (Cumhuriyet)

The Documents of a Lie

Today there are documents in the Russian state archives proving that the imperialists have plotted the “genocide” story. These documents bring to light the truth that Armenians have never been the majority in any region of the Anatolia, they have led a comfortable life and, they imposed atrocity on the Muslim people after provocations.

Commemorating the anniversary of the alleged Armenian genocide, certain Western people and Turkish intellectuals who surrendered the West started to put forward the Armenian allegations vigorously again. If we exclude the Turkish and Armenian parties, the most important witnesses of the incidents in the east part of Turkey in 1915-1923 are the Tsardom Russia and the Soviet Russia. For this reason the state archives of the Russian Federation include documents that will play a significant role in the revelation of the truth about the Armenian issue.

SIGNIFICANCE OF THE RUSSIAN ARCHIVES

Firstly, Tsardom Russia is inside the Armenian issue in the position of a party and as a nation who fought in the Caucasus Front recorded the before and after of the deportation in 1915 in details. Secondly, Turkey’s Eastern Front’s being the Trans-Caucasus Front of Russia indicates that the Soviet archives are the first hand sources. Thirdly, while the Tsardom archives possess certain parts of the Dashnag documents a power using the Dashnags, as a Soviet Republic the Soviet archives include specific parts of the Soviet Armenia. Today some documents in the Armenian state archives, which are closed to the researchers, can be reached through Russian state archives. Azerbaijani and Georgian sources can be added to these documents.

Consequently, the remarks of the German generals, British officers and American missioners, even when we put their imperialist aspirations aside, do not go beyond “personal” considerations, Russia witnessed the incidents as a state in both periods. When we add the sources of the Armenian and other Trans-Caucasian Republics, it would not be an exaggeration to say that the Russian archives have the most important documents regarding the Armenian question.

The significance of the quality of the documents in these archives arises from the fact that all the documents are top-secret reports and letters signed by the high level officials of Tsardom Russia, Soviet State, Dashnag and Soviet Armenia. The documents in the archives regarding the Turkish-Armenian question while on one hand contain the confessions of the claimants or reveals the considerations of the powers which use the Armenian Question against Turkey and on the other hand are the effective and valid evidences at the international level due to the fact that it reflects the comments of a third party such as Soviet Russia. Especially the reports and internal correspondence include the sincere evaluation of the state officials directed towards finding the truth.

The common feature of the documents in the Russian state archives relating to content is that they verify Turley’s views and reveals that the Armenian genocide is untrue beyond doubt. As a result of the researches we have been conducting in the Russian state archives of the Tsardom Russia and the state archives of the Soviet era on the Armenian Question, I can summarize the basic conclusion as follows:

*These documents proved that the Armenian gangs followed a systematic massacre policy against the Turks and Azerbaijani Turks and Kurds in Trans-Caucasus, Eastern Anatolia and Adana and Maraþ regions called Cilicia in 1915-1920.

*The ethnic cleansing policy of the Armenian gangs in and after the World War I caused war and mutual massacres between the Armenian gangs and the Turkish state and the Muslim people (Turks and Kurds together). Thus both sides resorted to violence against each other.

*Those who are responsible for the cutting of the throat struggle between the Armenians and Muslims are the Western imperialists and the Tsardom Russia. In a desire to divide and share the Ottoman State, great powers provoked the fanatic Armenian organisations and incited them to fight. The Ottoman State, government of the Turkish Grand National Assembly and the Muslim community took warfare measures in this case and conducted a justifiable struggle by oppressing the revolting Armenian gangs and thus defended its country.

THE ARCHIVES THAT INCLUDE THE DOCUMENTS

These documents are especially in these archives: Military archives and the foreign ministry archives relating to the Tsardom period; Central Party Archive of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the foreign ministry archive of the Soviet era, Red Army Archive relating to the Soviet era and the State Archive of the Russian Federation for both periods.

After these outline information, let’s dwell upon the sorts of the documents about the Armenian question that are accessible in the Tsardom and Soviet archives respectively.

TSARDOM ARCHIVES

In the Tsardom archives, the documents about the Armenian question goes back especially to the late 19th Century and extends to 1919 and includes as well as the period before that date. While the Tsardom rule collapsed completely by the October Revolution in 1917, survival of the White Armies, Armchair Government and the Central Headquarters of the Caucasus Front in Tbilisi for a while expanded the time period of the Tsardom archives. We can classify the documents in these archives as follows:

1. The living standards of the Armenians in the Ottoman State: Tsardom archive documents refute in a clear way the arguments of the Armenian nationalists and the nationalist-chauvinist historians about the life conditions of the Armenians in the Ottoman State. According to these documents the Armenians has lived in very good conditions in Turkey and has been supported and protected by especially the Ottoman State until the intervention of the imperialist states and especially until the Berlin Conference (1878). The correspondence of the Tsardom officials show that the living standards of the Ottoman Armenians have been better compared to the Armenians in Russia. Therefore the Armenians have fled the Tsardom Russia and taken shelter in the Ottoman State. Moreover, the Armenian peasants have always been wealthier than the Muslims in certain places. In fact, the Armenians have had significant positions in trade and craft. In addition, the communities of the Ottoman State, especially Turks, Kurds and Armenians have lived in complete harmony.

The information within this framework proves that the Armenian question was made up artificially to justify the occupation of Turkey by the West and the Tsardom Russia. In an effort to hide the imperialist aggression, a public opinion was created for the sake of the Armenians’ alleged poor living conditions.

2. Birth of the Armenian Nationalism and its Characteristics: Tsardom documents show that the Armenian nationalism has developed in parallel with the projects of the West and Tsardom Russia to use Armenia against Turkey especially in the 19th Century. Especially the Armenian publications and documents in the archives about that period put forward obviously the cooperative, chauvinistic and aggressive origins of the Armenian nationalism. The Armenian intellectuals in the Caucasus have already been dreaming of founding an independent Armenia “in cooperation with” the imperialist states and they have tried to impose their ideals on the Armenians in Turkey by force.

3. Eastern Europe’s Role in the Development of the Armenian Question: Russia and Europe who are in competition in sharing the East were also competing against each other on the use of the Armenians. The reports written by the Russian officials reveal particularly the British provocations about the Armenian Issue. According to the officials it is aimed at straining the relations between Russia and Turkey and on the other hand sharing the Ottoman state by supporting the centrifugal forces.

4. Tasks Assigned to the Armenians during World War I: It is understood from the Dashnag’s correspondence and talks with the officials of the Tsardom Russia that the Armenians have been assigned two missions within the framework of the plans to occupy Turkey. The Armenians would launch an uprising in the rear front and weaken the Turkish army. This is the first assignment. The second assignment is to split the line of defence of the Turkish army and facilitate the Russian occupation by means of the Armenian volunteer units. In addition, there are numerous reports written by the Russian officials in this regard. All these plans have been carried out under the command and control of the Western States and Tsardom Russia.

5. The Ottoman Armenian Masses were dragged into imperialist plans. The Turkish Armenians played an active role in the performance of this duty. It was not the matter of several Dashnag terrorists. Broad Armenian groups participated in forming the volunteering units and triggering the rebellions. The archives are full of Armenian’s applications to the Russian officials in order join the Tsardom armies to fight in the voluntary units against the Turks. The names of thousands of Armenian citizens ranging from ordinary peasants subordinate to the Turkish subjects, university students and doctors can be seen in the archives. These documents are significant from the point of view of showing the dimension of the threat.

6. Massacre and Pillage Policy of the Armenian voluntary units. According to the hundreds of reports prepared by the Tsardom generals and officers and the records and verdicts of the Tsardom military courts, Armenian voluntary units in the occupied regions during The First World War massacred the Muslim people and pillaged their property. To these documents, this massacre and pillage policy was performed systematically. Even the Russian commanders who used the Armenian gangs struck with terror due to this atrocity. Many Armenian officers and soldiers were tried in military courts and were executed. It is highly essential that these massacres have started before deportation.

7. “Armenia without Armenians” project of the Tsardom Russia: The internal correspondence of the Tsardom officials prove the Russian plans to make the Armenians organize an attack on the Turks and settle the Don Kazakhs in the region after the occupation. Tsardom officials defined this plan as the “Armenia without Armenians.”

SOVIET ARCHIVES

The documents in the Soviet archives go back to the years after 1917 and include the Soviet officials’ comments about the past events.

1. Armenian Question is the Imperialism Question: The major leaders of the Soviet government such as Lenin and Stalin, Armenian Bolshevik theorists have made many explanations about the foundations of the Armenian question. According to these comments that that have been reflected the correspondence and reports, etc. the Armenian Question has been used as a means by the imperialist states in sharing Turkey. Turkey has defended its country against division and has conducted a justified struggle.

2. The role and ethnic cleansing policy of Dashnag Armenia: Soviet leaders established that Dashnag Armenia built a wall between the revolutionist Turkey and Soviet Russia and became the subcontractor of imperialism in the region after the World War I. Dashnag Armenia played the role of a base in the West’s realisation of the plans in the East.

Soviet documents prove the ethnic cleansing policy followed by the Dashnags in the territories that is called Armenia today. Dashnag government removed a considerable part of the Muslim population for “merely” the sake of establishing a national state. Moreover, the Muslim population were put to the sword systematically under the auspices of France in Adana, Maraþ region that is called Cilicia.

3. Turkish-Soviet alliance and Elimination of the Dashnag Armenia: As it was clearly proven by the Soviet archive documents, Dashnag government was disintegrated by the cooperative efforts of the Turkish armies and the Red Army, and Soviet government was established. The operation of the Turkish Army on Armenia, which is called genocide today, was supported by the Soviet leadership and was assessed as a progressive operation. Turkey’s operation was the part of the defence of the country.

This is why the Armenian nationalists attack on the Soviet leadership as Talat and Enver Pashas did. Russian Armenian Union collected the documents on this subject in its book titled “Guardians and Accessories of the Armenian Genocide” and considered Lenin and Stalin to be the accomplices of he Armenian Genocide. What must be underlined here is the condemnation of Russia by the Armenians via the Soviet State.

4. Dashnag’s Nazi-Guided Policy in the World War II: In the World War II, Dashnags assumed the role that they had assumed in the World War I but this time side by side with the Hitler Germany. Dashnags were involved in a new crime against the regional people by establishing voluntary units for fascist German armies.

In addition, both Tsardom and Soviet documents prove that the Muslim population has been much more than that of the Armenians’ before deportation.

Mehmet PERINEEK
Istanbul University

ARMENIAN ALLEGATIONS and THE FACTS

ARTICLES

IS THERE ANY SECRET TELEGRAPH OF TALAT PASHA ORDERING GENOCIDE?

Armenian propaganda, eager to relate "Genocide" allegation to an Ottoman policy, also had to prove that there is a decision taken to this end. A formula was found for that and some telegraph samples attributed to Talat Pasha, allegedly found in Halep by the forces commanded by General Allenby, were set forth. It is alleged that these telegraphs were kept by an Ottoman official called Naim Bey and could not be destroyed by the Ottomans as the English occupation was realized sooner than expected.

An Armenian author called Aram Andonian published the copies of these telegraphs in 1920³⁸ and they were also submitted to the court prosecuting Tehlirian, who murdered Talat Pasha in Berlin. 5 of these were referred to in the court, however, besides not being accepted as evidence, their authenticity could not be resolved.

Similar to the other Armenian allegations, this allegation has no truth as well. Because,

a. These telegraphs were published in Daily Telegraph newspaper in England³⁹. English Foreign Ministry investigated the case at the occupation command and eventually, it was understood that these documents were not found by Allenby forces, they were invented by an Armenian group in Paris.

b. The style of inscription and the papers that they are written on clearly show that they are not Ottoman documents.

c. English and French started arrestments following the occupation of Istanbul in order to penalize the persons responsible for the "massacre" committed against the Armenians, and the Ottoman Freedom and Entente Government provided all possible assistance to the occupying forces on this matter because of its hostility against Union and Advancement Party and its administrators. Some of the arrested persons were prosecuted in Istanbul and some were exiled to Malta.

The court in Istanbul sentenced 4 fleeing administrators of Union and Advancement with capital punishment in their default and 3 more persons were also sentenced with capital punishment. It was later revealed that the latter capital punishments were adjudicated based on the testimonies of false witnesses.

The English started to search for documents and witnesses against the defendants that they exiled to Malta, but they could not find any documents in spite of the assistance of Ottoman Freedom and Entente Government and they made recourse to US archives. No document to prove the massacre allegations could be found in these archives either.

The English Embassy to Washington sent the following answer to English Foreign Ministry on this matter:

"I regret informing that there is nothing that can be used as evidence against the Turks convicted in Malta. There is no concrete incident that can constitute sufficient evidence. The said reports do not at all seem to include even any evidence that could be useful in supporting the information on Turks already available to the Government of the Majesty."⁴⁰

English Foreign Ministry asked English Royal Prosecutor's Office what to do with respect to this answer. The answer of the Prosecutor's Office was as follows:

"To date, no testimony that can prove the accusations about the defendants could be taken from any witness. In fact, it is not definite whether any witness can be found or not..."⁴¹

Eventually, the defendants in Malta were released at late 1921 without being accused and tried.

The telegraphs stemming from Andonian while the English were busy searching for documents were known. The reason why the English did not respect these was because they knew that these were invented.

d. The proofs that Andonian's documents were false can be listed as follows:

1. Andonian depended on the signature of Halep Governor Mustafa Abdülhalik to prove that the false documents that he invented were "authentic Ottoman documents". However, when numerous documents currently in the archives, bearing the signature of Mustafa Abdülhalik are examined, it is revealed that the signature on Andonian documents is false.
2. There is a date on one of the false documents of Andonian bearing the signature of Mustafa Abdülhalik. However, when authentic documents on the correspondence between the Ministry of the Interior of that time and Halep Governorship are examined, it is seen that Halep Governor was Bekir Sami, not Mustafa Abdülhalik on the said date.
3. Therefore, the false documents of Andonian prove that Andonian was either completely unaware of the differences between the Muslim Julian calendar and the Christian calendar or he overlooked these differences while preparing the documents. The errors that he made in the dates and reference numbers because of carelessness leave no suspect that the documents are false.
4. When the "outgoing cipher" records of the Ministry of the Interior of that time are examined in detail, it is revealed that there is no similarity between the cipher record dates and numbers of the Ministry and the date and numbering system of the false documents of Andonian and that there is no relation between the so-called "ciphered telegraphs" of Andonian and the authentic ciphered telegraphs sent by the Ministry of Interior of that time to Halep.
5. When the Turkish "originals" of Andonian's "ciphered telegraphs" are compared to the Ottoman ciphered messages of that time, it is seen that there is no connection between the cipher systems used. Andonian used a new ciphering system that was never used and never existed in order to make his documents appear as authentic. It is concluded from the dates on the false documents that the Ottomans used the same ciphering method during 6 months; that is impossible. Because, it is proven that an obligation to change the ciphering method every 2 months was introduced by a circular and implemented during the years of war.
6. The inexperienced inscription of the Besmele on two of Andonian's false documents proves that Andonian's documents are false, when it is compared to those on authentic documents. This inexperienced method of inscription may have stemmed from the fact that the non-Muslims in the Ottomans -even they knew Ottoman language- have never used Besmele in their written correspondence.
7. It is hard to accept that the sentence patterns and grammatical errors in many of Andonian's false documents were made by an Ottoman official. Similarly, many phrases and expressions allegedly used by significant Ottoman officials can not be used even by any Ottoman Turk. Eager to prove that the Turks themselves confessed their guilt, Andonian overlooked this matter.
8. The false documents, except two, were written on plain white paper bearing none of the official symbols used by the Ottoman bureaucracy of that time. It is observed that one of the false documents was written on ruled paper, which was not used even in private correspondence of the Ottoman, and the other two documents were written on blank telegraph forms that can be taken from any Ottoman Post Office.
9. The fact that the English did not use Andonian's documents at a time that they exerted intense effort to find documents that can be used against the Ottoman officials, although there were English editions of these documents, show that the English government was of the opinion that such documents were false.
10. If the documents invented by Andonian ever existed, they should have been sent via courier rather than telegraph and destroyed just after being read instead of being kept in files during three years, as they were bearing top secret clearance.
11. There are numerous differences between the English and French editions of Andonian's book that are so important that can not have been caused by clerical or translation errors.
12. Lastly, even some authors, who were acting as the spokesmen of the Armenians and were in close relationship with Armenian milieus, express their suspicions on the authenticity of Andonian documents.
Briefly, the famous "Talat Pasha Telegraphs" are nothing more than tricks invented by Andonian and his milieu.
A letter dated 18 February 1331 (2 March 1916) written by Aram Andonian. The letter starts with the expression "Bismillahi" that has been written in a manner that it can not have been written by a Muslim. However, Andonian makes his greatest error in the date. Overlooking 13 days of difference that should be considered when transforming Julian calendar into Gregorian calendar, Andonian has illustrated that he does not have knowledge on this subject. He has mistaken the date on the above letter one full year and has written 1331 (1916). The contents of the letter are set forth as the so-called evidence that 1915 operation was a deportation prepared through a long planning process.⁴²

e. There are other secret telegraphs sent by Talat Pasha on the same dates as the telegraphs in which he allegedly orders the massacre of Armenians. These telegraphs are related with the punishment of the officials that commit offenses during deportation. There is no explanation for requiring the "massacre" of the Armenians on one hand and instructing the punishment of the officials who will commit such "massacre".

f. Ottoman Government permitted the American aid organization called Neareast Relief Society to work in Anatolia in order to aid the Armenians. This organization was also allowed to stay in Anatolia after US entered the war on the side of Entente States. This matter was also the subject of the reports of US Ambassador Elkus.
In this case, if "massacre" was ordered, how was permission given to the American organization to carry out its activities and witness the "massacre, i.e. did they say "We are massacring the Armenians, come and watch"? There should be a way to explain this reasonably.

g. Armenians domiciled at Istanbul, Western Anatolia and Thrace were kept out of deportation. Even some of the Middle Anatolia Armenians were left in their places. As there is no such total deportation, a "total massacre" can never be alleged.
Finally, if the Government intended to demolish the Armenians totally, it could have done very easily it at the current locations of Armenians and particularly close to the fronts, not by means of deportation lasting for months and by attracting the attention of all states.
As it is seen, the genocide allegation firmly held by the Armenians is also nothing but a lie and genocide was never in question.

Footnotes:

(38) ANDONIAN, Aram; Documents officels concernants les Massacres Armeniens, Paris, 1920. Imprimerie Turabian.
(39) Daily Telegraph, 29 May 1922.
(40) English Embassy to Washington, from R.C. Craigie to Lord Jurzon, 13 July 1921; English Foreign Ministry Archive, 371/6504/8519.
(41) 29 July 1921, English Foreign Ministry Archive, 371/6504/E8745.
(42) Feigl, Erich. A Myth of Terror, Edition zeitgeschichten-Freilassing-Salzburg, 1991 p. 85.

TURKISH CASUALTIES IN ANATOLIA AND CAUCASIA BETWEEN 1906-1922

(REFERENCE GOVERNMENT ARCHIVES)

Volume and Document Number	Date	Place	Casualties
1/2	February 21, 1914	Kars, Ardahan	30000
1/3	May 8, 1916	Pasinler	2000
1/3	May 8, 1916	Tercan	563
1/3	May 8, 1916	Van,Tatvan	1600
1/3	May 9, 1916	Bitlis	40000
1/3	May 8, 1916	Bitlis	10000
1/3	May 9, 1915	Bitlis	123
1/4	1915	Van	44
1/4	May 22, 1916	Van	1000
1/4	May 22, 1916	Koprukoy, Van	200
1/4	1916-5-22	Van	15000
1/4	1916-5-22	Van	8
1/4	1916-5-22	Van	80000
1/4	1916-5-22	Van	15000
1/5	1916	Of	5
1/6	1916-5-23	Trabzon	2086
1/6	1916-5-23	Van	300
1/6	1916-5-11	Van	44233
1/6	1916-11	Malazgirt	20000
1/7	1916-6-11	Bitlis	12
1/8	1916	Van, Resadiye	15
1/9	1916-6	Van, Abbasaga	14
1/9	1916-6	Edremid, Vastan	15000
1/10	1915-4	Bitlis	29
1/10	1915-4	Muradiye	10000
1/11	1915-5	Van	20000
1/11	1915/2	Haskay	200
1/11	1915-2	Dutak	3
1/12	1915-4	Van	120
1/12	1915	Van	150
1/11	1915	Bitlis	16000
1/11	1916-5	Mus	500
1/12	1916-5-25	Bayezid	14000
1/13	1915	Mus	800
1/13	1915-8	Mukus	126
1/13	1916-6-7	Mukus, Seyhan	121
1/13	1915-7	Mus Akcan	19
1/13	1329	Mus	10
1/14	1915	Bitlis Hizan	113
1/15	1915	Van	5200
1/16	1916-8-14	Bitlis	311
1/19	1916-6-6	Satak Serir	45
1/19	1916-6-6	Satak	1150
1/23	1916-1-15	Terme	9
2/2	1919-1-25	Kars	9
2/3	1919-1-21	Kilis	2
2/4	1919-2-26	Adana-Pozanti	4
2/5	1919-2-26	Osmaniye	1
2/7	1919-6-13	Pasinler	3
2/10	1919-6-3	Igdir	8
2/11	1919-7-7	Kars-Göle	9
2/12	1919-7-9	Kagizman	6
2/13	1919-7-9	Kurudere	8
2/16	1919-7-8	Mescidli	4
2/16	1919-7-8	Gulyantepe	10
2/22	1919-7-11	Mescidli	20
2/26	1919-7-19	Bulaklý	2
2/31	1919-7-24	Kars, Kagizman	9
2/36	1919-7	Sarikamis	803
2/37	1919-7	Sarikamis	695
2/38	1919-8	Several villages	2502
3/1	1919-7-5	Kagizman	4
3/1	1919	Tiknis, Agadeve	5
3/1	1919-7-19	Pasinler	2
3/1	1919	Nahcivan	4000
3/6	1919-7	Kurudere	8
3/6	1919-7-4	Akcakale	180
3/6	1919	Sarikamis	9
3/7	1919-8-15	Erzurum	153
3/14	1919-9	Allahuekber	3
3/18	1919-11-11	Maras	2
3/19	1919-11	Adana	4
3/19	1919-11-6	Ulukisla	7
3/22	1919-12-7	Adana	4
3/26	1920-1-22	Antep	1
3/27	1919-9	Unye	12
3/28	1920-2-28	Pozanti	40
3/29	1920-2-10	Cildir	100
3/32	1920-3-9	Zarusat	400
3/33	1920-2-2	Suregel	1350
3/35	1338-3	Maras	4
3/36	1920-3-22	Suregel, Zarusat	2000
3/37	1920-3-9	Zarusat	120
3/37	1920-3-16	Kagizman	720
3/39	1920-4-6	Gumru	500
3/40	1920-4-28	Kars	2
3/41	1920-5-5	Kars	1774
3/46	1920-5-22	Kars	10
3/47	1920-7-2	Kars, Erzurum	408
3/47	1920-7-2	Zengibasar	1500
3/49	1920-7-27	Erzurum	69
3/50	1920-2-1	Zarusat	2150
3/50	1920-5	Kars, Erzurum	27
3/50	1920-8	Oltu	650
3/50	1920-8	Kars, Erzurum	18
3/51	1920-10-15	Bayburt	1387
3/52	1920-10-20	Gole	100
3/53	1920-10-17	Pasinler	9287
3/54	1920-10-18	Tortum	3700
3/55	1920-10-19	Erzurum	8439
4/2	1920-10-26	Kars province	10693
4/3	1920-10-28	Aþkale	889
4/4	1919-1-6	Zarusat	86
4/5	1920-12-1	Kosor	69
4/6	1920-12-3	Gole	508
4/7	1920-12-4	Kosor	122
4/9	1920-12-4	Kars, Zeytun	28
4/10	1920-12-4	Sarikamis	1975
4/12	1920-12-6	Gole	194
4/14	1920-12-7	Kars, Digor	14620
4/16	1920-12-14	Sarikamis	5337
4/17	1920	Gole	600
4/17	1920	Kars	3945
4/18	1920	Haramivartan	138
4/19	1920	Nahcivan	64408
4/20	1920-11-29	Zarusat	1026
4/21	1921-2	Zengibasar	18
4/23	1920	Nahcivan	5307
4/24	1920-2	Kars province	561
4/26	1920-12	Erivan	192
4/27	1921	Karakilise	6000
4/29	1921-11-21	Pasinler	53
4/29	1921-11-21	Erzurum	1215
4/30	1918	Hinis	870
4/31	1918	Tercan	580
4/32	1921	Nahcivan	12
4/33	1921	Bayburt	580
4/34	1921	Arpacay	148
		TOTAL	517955

UNCERTAIN TURKISH CASUALTIES

Volume and Document Number	Date	Place	Death
1/2	1906-2-11	Revan	Habitants of 25 villages
1/3	1915-5-9	Bitlis	Habitants of 1 village
1/3	1915-5-9	Bitlis	Unknown
1/4	1916-5-22	Van	Unknown
1/6	1916-5-23	Van	Unknown
1/6	1915-5-11	Trabzon	Unknown
1/7	1916-6-11	Bitlis	Unknown
1/7	1916-6-11	Van	Unknown
1/7	1916-6-11	Baskala	Unknown
1/10	1915-6-11	Van	180 houses
1/11	1915-6	Bitlis	100 houses
1/11	1915-5	Van	Unknown
1/11	1915-6-20	Macka	Unknown
1/13	1914-12-17	Eleskird	Unknown
1/13	1916-5-23	Hinis	Unknown
1/13	1915-12	Mus	Habitants of two villages
1/13	1915	Elaziz	Unknown
1/13	1915-8	Gevaþ	Unknown
1/13	1915-2	Satak	9 villages
1/14	1915	Hizan	Unknown
1/18	1916-6-3	Diyarbakir	55
1/20	1916-5	Tercan	30 villages
2/2	1919-1-25	Ardahan	Unknown
2/15	1919-7-8	Gulentab	Habitants of two villages
2/20	1919-7-16	Buyuk Vedi	Unknown
4/23	1919-3	Kars and Province	85 houses
4/23	1919-3	sarikamis	All habitants of the village
4/23	1919-2	Igdir	Hundreds
4/23	1920	Kars and province	Unknown
4/26	1920-11	Erivan-Kars	Unknown
4/30	1918	Tekman	Unknown

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Turkey vows sanctions if France adopts genocide bill
the news | 10/9/06 | na
Posted on 10/09/2006 11:44:50 AM EDT by Flavius
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1716281/posts

Armenia genocide bill may worsen France-Turkey relations
EarthTimes | 10/12/06 | Pat Fryer
Posted on 10/12/2006 9:35:51 AM EDT by XR7
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1718030/posts

Turkey says french vote is 'heavy blow' to ties, threatens measures
AFP via The Tocqueville Connection | 10/12/2006
Posted on 10/12/2006 1:30:47 PM EDT by Republicain
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1718211/posts

EU backs Turkey over French law
By Sebnem Arsu The New York Times
Published: October 13, 2006
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/10/13/news/turkey.php

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Turkey tries to stop boycott of French goods
By Vincent Boland in Ankara and Martin Arnold in Paris
Published: October 13 2006 20:15 | Last updated: October 13 2006 20:15
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/7bd2e49e-5aec-11db-8f80-0000779e2340.html

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